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by ra7 2y ago
I think you need to update your understanding. Just saying they have better results because of mapping and lidar is incredibly reductive. They have an extremely sophisticated AI/ML stack and simulators. Start here: https://w
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by ra7 2y ago
> The "supervised" requirement is basically just being used as a legal loophole to avoid liability if it fails. "If it fails" - so it is supervised for a reason then. It makes sense because FSD has an intervention r
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by ra7 2y ago
What even is your allegation? That someone has a joystick in a remote center and they're directly controlling the vehicle? And they are doing it all in real-time over cellular networks? This isn't remotely feasible unless you thin
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by ra7 2y ago
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by ra7 2y ago
Waymo works in 4 cities as a fully autonomous vehicle. Tesla works nowhere as a fully autonomous vehicle.
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Waymo One is now open to all in Los Angeles(waymo.com)
213 points by ra7 2y ago|371 comments
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by ra7 2y ago
Quite possibly the most devastating thing for the country, if he follows through on the crazy health policies. It will be felt for decades.
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Perplexity founder Aravind Srinivas is still waiting for his green card(twitter.com)
2 points by ra7 2y ago|1 comments
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EMMA: End-to-End Multimodal Model for Autonomous Driving(waymo.com)
4 points by ra7 2y ago|1 comments
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by ra7 2y ago
13 miles per intervention after 8 years of development suggests it’s not happening anytime soon.
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by ra7 2y ago
If miles driven by cars under human supervision counted, Toyota cruise control would clock the highest. Autonomy is a binary: it’s either driverless or it’s not. There’s no need to invent terms such as “self driving mile”. Tesla may be prof
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by ra7 2y ago
A cache is exactly how I explain maps to people. They are saving precious compute cycles not computing the same static objects over and over again, by N number of vehicles.
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by ra7 2y ago
It's not a flaw if that's what is required to make it work. So far only Waymo works at L4 autonomy, so they are vindicated.
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by ra7 2y ago
What's a "self-driving mile"? Only metric that counts is driverless miles. That's the true test of autonomy.
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by ra7 2y ago
They test in many cities (Buffalo, Tahoe, Bellevue, NYC) . But they won't deploy to any cities which they haven't mapped because they consider it critical to safety.
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by ra7 2y ago
Well, we know exactly how Waymo's remote operators help out: https://waymo.com/blog/2024/05/fleet-response/ . They can't prevent accidents in real time like the Tesla drivers do and can't &
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by ra7 2y ago
> Waymo instead of being generalized, works off of a detailed map for each region they drive in. They have a complete expectation of every detail on those roads and so then only need to account for the dynamic unknowns on the road. Thi
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by ra7 2y ago
Except they can't make the kinds of safety critical interventions Tesla driver's in the seat can make i.e. prevent accidents. That's just physics. We know exactly how their remote operation works: https://waymo.com
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by ra7 2y ago
It's apples-to-oranges comparison. One is doing it completely driverless and has to get it right every single time. The other has a driver ready to intervene and just needs a single intervention-free drive.
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by ra7 2y ago
The difference is you are in the driver's seat paying attention at all times and ready to intervene. That's the expectation set by the system. It's the fundamental difference between partial autonomy and full autonomy.
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by ra7 2y ago
You're still in the driver's seat ready to intervene. Others are doing it every 13 miles: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/09/tesla-full-self-driving...
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by ra7 2y ago
Waymo has been at the forefront of cutting edge AI/ML since the beginning: https://waymo.com/research/ This is a good read: https://www.understandingai.org/p/elon-musk-wants-to-dominat... Thi
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by ra7 2y ago
The advantage is that it works.
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by ra7 2y ago
This is silly. The conversation is about L4 autonomy. Summon isn't fully driverless by any stretch of imagination. It requires the driver to be within a few feet and hold down a button in the app (essentially a kill switch). Moreover,
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by ra7 2y ago
This was first announced in July: https://techcrunch.com/2024/07/23/alphabet-to-invest-another... Pretty sure Waymo sees very little threat from Tesla, who don't even have a single driverless mile on pub
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Waymo closes $5.6B investment round(waymo.com)
88 points by ra7 2y ago|212 comments
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by ra7 2y ago
I’m pointing out the absurdity in your comment. There can’t be real time investigations when software is designed to be updated over time. As far FSD 12.5’s supposed exponential improvement, its disengagement rate is still in the low double
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by ra7 2y ago
The perfect setup. By the time an incident in the “current” software is investigated, it will be outdated. All Tesla has to do is a rev a software version and ignore all incidents that occurred prior to it.
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by ra7 2y ago
The driver’s fault. Tesla never accepts liability.
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by ra7 2y ago
This one will be too. Some Tesla supporters here have admitted to flagging negative stories: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40217615

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