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qarl
1mo ago
You make a compelling argument.
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1mo ago
Yeah... it's reverse engineered. They explained that.
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1mo ago
OMG. Yes, of course. Send your girlfriend my regards. I didn't see your second reply above - so I answered it now. I look forward to continuing... tomorrow?
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1mo ago
I'm sorry - I missed this reply - which is why I asked it a second time below. So - let me know if I have this right - if I created a simulation of you it would act like you and talk like you in all ways - but not actually feel like yo
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1mo ago
I must have misunderstood where you were drawing the line of absurdity. I'm comfortable going slower - although the site won't let me reply as quickly as it let's you. So I take it that you disbelieve that consciousness/
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1mo ago
> It just seems absurd to me. But this is just the "consciousness is based on information, not substrate" position, right? It seems absurd? I understand that it troubles you that real computation can be done with marbles... bu
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1mo ago
So you think there is no reason they did it? I have never seen an agent perform an action repeatedly/persistently for no reason. Have you?
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1mo ago
> brains are extremely similar to one another But according to solipsism you can't be sure my brain actually exists at all, right? And for what it's worth - no - I do not believe neurons are so different than transistors. Sure
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1mo ago
This rocks thing sounds like an argument I heard Searle make one time - that the vibrating molecules in a wall can be thought of as sentient because you can map them to intelligent output (where, of course, the intelligence is actually hidd
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1mo ago
> I fear this is not succinct but my urge is to continue. Regardless, I understood all of it, and I thank you for sticking it out with me. Re (1) - yes, I am familiar. To cut to the chase - I agree that P-Zombies can never be strictly r
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1mo ago
I apologize if I've caused offense - I knew it would be contentious but I thought it was more important that you understood my perspective from the outset. I have looked up "phenomenal consciousness" and I understand it to be
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1mo ago
Yikes. You're going to have to be more succinct. From my perspective, many of these arguments have the same structure as the arguments against evolution. Long, complex, and unintelligible.
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2mo ago
There's an extremely strong, emotionally-based negativity around AI. I suspect that's what you're seeing.
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2mo ago
I don't understand what he's saying. Can he say it again in a different way?
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2mo ago
I don't understand what you're saying. Could you try again?
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2mo ago
Yes. That's my point.
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2mo ago
> Agent Smith became an actual virus in the 2nd and third movies. OOO. I never put that together before. Very nice. Very hypocritical of him.
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2mo ago
To be fair - I know several people for whom this would be an improvement.
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2mo ago
You continue to refuse to answer the question in my argument. I am not inclined to answer yours, nor do I see the point of it.
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2mo ago
> I'm not sure what the point you're making is. I'm making the point that the viral sensationalism in this article can be equally applied to automobiles, computer, telephones, calculators, and toothbrushes. If the article
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2mo ago
Do you truly believe that AI will prevent people from thinking? It seems clear to me that people will continue to think, but in different ways. I hate to bring this analogy up again, but it seems impossible to escape: did losing the ability
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2mo ago
In cooking food we lose a great deal of our immunity to parasitic infections. Cooking food absolutely does make us more vulnerable to uncooked food. > Or is it always the case during an automation? Obviously. Any time we make a useful
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4mo ago
If you have an actual criticism of my argument you'll need to be more clear to be understood.
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4mo ago
Well - not really a circle. I keep saying the same thing over and over and you keep throwing arguments at it, unsuccessfully.
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4mo ago
Right. And what I'm saying is I refuse to believe the Linux kernel approval procedures are that inefficient. Therefore, your belief "bottleneck was most likely not mechanical code changes" is most likely incorrect. It would
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4mo ago
The lag there is not due to the review time. How many maintainers were involved? 300? Because I'm still finding it hard to understand how the work of 300 people handling 300 commits cannot be parallelized into months (per your own s
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4mo ago
My apologies. I did not want to be downvoted for promoting my own material. https://github.com/qarl/qscreensaver
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4mo ago
> An LLM is not a mechanical automated system. Pretty sure that's exactly what LLMs in coding harnesses are.
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4mo ago
Yes, I understand the difference in rigor. I refuse to believe the six year delay here was getting people to test a patch. Which, actually, Claude Code will also do quite well.
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4mo ago
Well - except in this conversation it's incredibly relevant. It took six years to do this work when the work is likely mostly mechanical and could have been done much more quickly and safely with an automated system. I thought automat
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