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I would call it some sort of language, or substitute "sort" with "type" if the word seems too casual for your tastes. I agree that there may be a lot happening in this world we're unable to perceive, and then your w
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7y ago
I believe all animals definitely have some sort of language, and that the complexity of a language depends on its utility in facilitating everyday interactions and activities. What are the most complex activities you've seen elephants
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7y ago
You are asking me to prove that humans are smarter than elephants? It makes for an interesting philosophical debate, but that is all it really will be. Kind of like me asking you to prove you are smarter than a rock, or that you are really
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7y ago
They had greater cranial capacity than us, but so do elephants and whales. And the animal with the greatest brain-to-body-size ratio is tree shrew, suggesting that size doesn't really matter when it comes to intelligence.
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7y ago
> Why is there not a large movement to just make UI development in native languages better What are these native languages you speak of?
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7y ago
> you care about the hard $$$ cost of development and maintainence per unit of webapp functionality delivered, then Elm makes a heck of a lot more sense than JS+etc. It doesn't, sorry. JS resources, developers and libraries are atle
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7y ago
rocket sceince !== proper understanding rocket science !== discipline VB-classic, Delphi, or Oracle Forms have whats known as drag-and-drop/visual programming. Comparing them to CSS & HTML isn't a fair comparison, unless you c
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7y ago
What most people do not realize, is JavaScript was designed as a functional language, with a C-like syntax. When I talk about learning proper JS, I mean getting back to its functional roots, because that where it really shines.
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7y ago
> My whole point is that Elm is (or one day soon will be) much superior to JS et. al. This is a cost/benefit analysis, not tribalism. I'm sorry, but your enthusiasm for Elm might be blinding your reasoning. JS is an EXTREMELY f
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7y ago
> I'm not sure where you're coming from, but when I'm looking for a job We are discussing the flipside of that: looking for an employee/teammate. And I agree, a company that uses better tools is always more attractive
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7y ago
So you're ok with an elm programmer not willing to learn JS, but not ok with the reverse. That just sounds like good old fashioned tribalism; and personally I'd never hire a tribal programmer, whether that tribalism is about a gre
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> I wouldn't hire a JS programmer who was afraid or unwilling or unable to learn Elm. Would you hire an Elm programmer who was afraid or unwilling to learn proper JS?
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7y ago
JavaScript is now a marketing choice? Wow!
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7y ago
Which GUI library would you use instead of HTML?
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7y ago
Behavior and features are two different things. Behavior is more about basic interactivity, like clicking or scrolling. Even websites that just show articles require some behavior to work.
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7y ago
We already have 3 different standards: HTML, CSS, JavaScript. These are low level enough, and powerful enough that you can build document, multimedia or application frameworks on top of them. Simple UI tasks don't take rocket science,
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7y ago
If the code only works but isn't maintainable (simple and extendable), then you've got a very interesting programmer, just havn't realized it yet.
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7y ago
> If people are trying to make use of NoSQL because they want to avoid the SQL language (not the relational model), they’ve made a grave mistake in understanding their technologies; I don’t think such a naive opinion should be considered
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7y ago
You still haven't explained why SQL in particular has ruled over its problem domain for over 40 years. For example, in systems programming over that same timespan we've had assembly, c, c++ and rust. Why is SQL the exception to th
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7y ago
What is your favourite HiveQl extension?
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7y ago
While based on SQL, HiveQL does not strictly follow the full SQL-92 standard, just like all the other SQL dialects out there. hiveQL is SQL.
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7y ago
I think the point he is making is that why hasn't anything better come up to better represent the relational model in over 40 years?
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8y ago
>> also out of incompetence stemming from ignorance (which I'm then forced to deal with, unnecessarily) This smacks of intellectual snobbery. We are all born with different talents and abilities, and not everyone is blessed with
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8y ago
>> "If you don't like it don't use it" fallacy doesn't work because I'm not talking about private but professional use. That professional use is decided by someone too, the business owner, or someone give
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8y ago
Hey, life's too short for that kind of bitterness over a mundane thing like what OS others are using. You have lots of choice. If you don't like windows, don't use it. Simple! but don't lie to yourself about whats been t
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>> It's an unsolvable problem until we reach a point where we can replace human brains with cold, unfeeling robots. That would be a gigantic step back. You under-estimate just how powerful that organ between your ears is.
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8y ago
As much as you try to discredit that survey, I trust the stackoverflow survey much more than your anecdotal evidence of windows demise. That survey outlined the methodology used to arrive at their results. You, on the other hand, haven'
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Hmmmm... The latest stack-overflow developers survey doesn't seem to agree with you. Maybe its just in your locality that windows doesnt exist? https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019?utm_source=so...
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All the previous benefits of async? Did you mean promises, callbacks or async? async/await is just syntax sugar over promises.
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You make it seem like the differences between firefox and chrome are HUGE. What quirks are these you've encountered that can be compared to the hardships of shipping a game that runs equally well in windows and linux?
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