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Hmmmm... The latest stack-overflow developers survey doesn't seem to agree with you. Maybe its just in your locality that windows doesnt exist? https://insigh

Hmmmm... The latest stack-overflow developers survey doesn't seem to agree with you. Maybe its just in your locality that windows doesnt exist? https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019?utm_source=so-owned&utm_medium=blog&utm_campaign=dev-survey-2019&utm_content=launch-blog#technology-_-developers-primary-operating-systems https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019?utm_source=so...

Annatar 8y ago
Because we know that "Stackoverflow" is some sort of an authority, right? Come on... don't trust anyone on the Internet (not even me). The only experience you can trust is the one you experience yourself. There is no authority to defer to, the computer industry is notoriously full of examples where superior technology failed because most people working on and with computers are pathologically ignorant, exactly the people who should be knowledgeable. Or perhaps better: "trust, but verify". For example, 51%-something self-identified as "full stack" developers, yet most people fall into three to five years of experience. If I tell you that "full stack" means one is capable of designing one's own server hardware, network and infrastructure all the way up to writing application software, it becomes apparent that people who identified as "full stack developers" don't even rightly know what that means yet they obviously at three to five years of experience think that they do. And now we're right back to pathological ignorance specific to computer industry. Or are all those people geniuses who learned hardware engineering, application programming, network, system and database administration in three to five years, something which normally takes decades of apprenticeship under dedicated mentors to master? These surveys are nonsense, waste of disk space and electricity. Trust, but verify, that's the lesson here. And think critically for yourself.
- HelloNurse 8y ago
  From the point of view of everyone else, "Don't trust anyone on the Internet" applies to you. If you doubt that Windows has serious users, it means that you live in a very low diversity bubble of non-Windows users, presumably a bubble of Mackintosh-only workplaces and generic Linux cloud servers. Then, why should anyone give any weight to your objectively uninformed opinions about Windows? You must admit that, compared to you, the crowd of Stack Overflow users is an "authority" because it includes actual Windows users.
  - Annatar 8y ago
    "From the point of view of everyone else, "Don't trust anyone on the Internet" applies to you." That's what I wrote, but it seems you got into a tizzy over "is Windows still a thing?" and it was "good night" after that for you. The crowd, at "Stack overflow" or anywhere else will never and has in the history of human kind never been an authority on anything. If anything, the crowds have killed innocent people by burning them at the stake, stoning or lynching them. So crowds are about as dumb as one can find. "Hacker" "news" at its finest again.
- orange8 8y ago
  As much as you try to discredit that survey, I trust the stackoverflow survey much more than your anecdotal evidence of windows demise. That survey outlined the methodology used to arrive at their results. You, on the other hand, haven't even stated where you live, or how many companies you've visited, over what time period, to reach the honestly quite absurd conclusion that windows is dead.
  - Annatar 8y ago
    What's really absurd is that there are people still attaching any importance to Windows, which is the worst operating system in computing history. Even more absurd is that those people don't know any better. That's the sad, disgusting state of computing in the early 21st century... and then tell me computers or computing aren't shit!
    - orange8 8y ago
      Hey, life's too short for that kind of bitterness over a mundane thing like what OS others are using. You have lots of choice. If you don't like windows, don't use it. Simple! but don't lie to yourself about whats been the most dominant and used desktop operating system since the mid 90s. Preferences are ok but delusions, just sad.
      - Annatar 8y ago
        "If you don't like it don't use it" fallacy doesn't work because I'm not talking about private but professional use. Look what happened with GNU/Linux, one cannot "not use it if one doesn't like it" because someone else already decided, also out of incompetence stemming from ignorance (which I'm then forced to deal with, unnecessarily). So there is more than plenty of reason for deep seated bitterness and resentment. Of course I wouldn't use those privately but private use is irrelevant.
        orange8 8y ago
        >> "If you don't like it don't use it" fallacy doesn't work because I'm not talking about private but professional use. That professional use is decided by someone too, the business owner, or someone given that authority. And they too, have aright to make that choice for their organizations, as well as for the people they employ. If you don't like it, get a job elsewhere. Choice is not a falacy, and your bitterness stems from the fact that you're denying you have it. Be gratefull for what you have.

Annatar 8y ago

Because we know that "Stackoverflow" is some sort of an authority, right? Come on... don't trust anyone on the Internet (not even me). The only experience you can trust is the one you experience yourself. There is no authority to defer to, the computer industry is notoriously full of examples where superior technology failed because most people working on and with computers are pathologically ignorant, exactly the people who should be knowledgeable. Or perhaps better: "trust, but verify". For example, 51%-something self-identified as "full stack" developers, yet most people fall into three to five years of experience. If I tell you that "full stack" means one is capable of designing one's own server hardware, network and infrastructure all the way up to writing application software, it becomes apparent that people who identified as "full stack developers" don't even rightly know what that means yet they obviously at three to five years of experience think that they do. And now we're right back to pathological ignorance specific to computer industry. Or are all those people geniuses who learned hardware engineering, application programming, network, system and database administration in three to five years, something which normally takes decades of apprenticeship under dedicated mentors to master? These surveys are nonsense, waste of disk space and electricity. Trust, but verify, that's the lesson here. And think critically for yourself.

HelloNurse 8y ago
From the point of view of everyone else, "Don't trust anyone on the Internet" applies to you. If you doubt that Windows has serious users, it means that you live in a very low diversity bubble of non-Windows users, presumably a bubble of Mackintosh-only workplaces and generic Linux cloud servers. Then, why should anyone give any weight to your objectively uninformed opinions about Windows? You must admit that, compared to you, the crowd of Stack Overflow users is an "authority" because it includes actual Windows users.
- Annatar 8y ago
  "From the point of view of everyone else, "Don't trust anyone on the Internet" applies to you." That's what I wrote, but it seems you got into a tizzy over "is Windows still a thing?" and it was "good night" after that for you. The crowd, at "Stack overflow" or anywhere else will never and has in the history of human kind never been an authority on anything. If anything, the crowds have killed innocent people by burning them at the stake, stoning or lynching them. So crowds are about as dumb as one can find. "Hacker" "news" at its finest again.
orange8 8y ago
As much as you try to discredit that survey, I trust the stackoverflow survey much more than your anecdotal evidence of windows demise. That survey outlined the methodology used to arrive at their results. You, on the other hand, haven't even stated where you live, or how many companies you've visited, over what time period, to reach the honestly quite absurd conclusion that windows is dead.
- Annatar 8y ago
  What's really absurd is that there are people still attaching any importance to Windows, which is the worst operating system in computing history. Even more absurd is that those people don't know any better. That's the sad, disgusting state of computing in the early 21st century... and then tell me computers or computing aren't shit!
  - orange8 8y ago
    Hey, life's too short for that kind of bitterness over a mundane thing like what OS others are using. You have lots of choice. If you don't like windows, don't use it. Simple! but don't lie to yourself about whats been the most dominant and used desktop operating system since the mid 90s. Preferences are ok but delusions, just sad.
    - Annatar 8y ago
      "If you don't like it don't use it" fallacy doesn't work because I'm not talking about private but professional use. Look what happened with GNU/Linux, one cannot "not use it if one doesn't like it" because someone else already decided, also out of incompetence stemming from ignorance (which I'm then forced to deal with, unnecessarily). So there is more than plenty of reason for deep seated bitterness and resentment. Of course I wouldn't use those privately but private use is irrelevant.
      - orange8 8y ago
        >> "If you don't like it don't use it" fallacy doesn't work because I'm not talking about private but professional use. That professional use is decided by someone too, the business owner, or someone given that authority. And they too, have aright to make that choice for their organizations, as well as for the people they employ. If you don't like it, get a job elsewhere. Choice is not a falacy, and your bitterness stems from the fact that you're denying you have it. Be gratefull for what you have.