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nickpapciak
1y ago
Yes, some of this definitely resonates. We really want the agents to suggest their own, novel projects, beyond security or cost optimization. I think this is more feasible for coding agents to do in infra rather than dev work because a lot
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1y ago
Potentially! But we do not do PR reviews at the moment. Is infra code reviews something you are interested in?
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1y ago
That’s actually a really interesting point. We started out building out basically an “agentic PaaS” exactly as you described, but quickly found difficulty in securing more customers and moving up-market (from seed stage to series A+) for it
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1y ago
Yes definitely! That's why we do believe the agents, for the time being, will act as great junior devs that you can offload work onto, while as they get better they can slowly get promoted into more active roles. The personalities appr
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1y ago
thank you!
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1y ago
These are fair criticisms. I will say, while each of these examples are challenging problems for agents to carry out, I do believe they can be solved. Especially with a tighter integration with app code. We are always trying to learn more b
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Glad you mentioned this! We do use open source rule-based scanners internally to make it more deterministic. This is also a new feature, and we'd probably want to integrate with existing tools rather than competing with them. We do thi
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1y ago
Lots of people have asked us this! We try to do more than just being an AI-enabled IDE by giving the agent access to your infrastructure and observability tools. So you can query over your AWS, get information about metrics over the past fe
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Thank you! We currently mainly use Claude Sonnet and then Opus for more difficult tasks. We experimented with GPT 5 when it came out but we might need to do some more experiments to see if it’s better. Better evals is something we are worki
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1y ago
Would love to! I think I just found and added you on LinkedIn
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1y ago
Glad you find it interesting. A surprising way people are using us right now has been people who are technical but don’t have deep infrastructure expertise, asking datafruit questions about how stuff should be done. Something we’ve been dea
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LLMs are pretty awesome at Terraform, probably because there is just so much training data. They are also pretty good at the AWS CDK and Pulumi to a bit of a lesser extent, but I think giving them access to documentation is what helps make
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AWS has created a whole economy of companies whose job is to make the dashboard more tolerable. Hopefully our agents help with that haha.
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That's an interesting approach. For us, we give it read-only privileges which gives the agent the context of your infrastructure, without giving it the capabilities to break things. But I do see a world where we give it more access, bu
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Totally agree, enterprise is where the most $ is to be made, but from what we've found they care a lot about doing one specific thing very well. This has been something we've been thinking about. For now we've enjoyed working
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Ahh. To clarify, changes like granting users access would be done by our agent modifying IaC, so you would still have to manually apply the changes. Every potentially destructive change being an IaC change helps allow the humans to always s
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That's fair. For what it's worth, our agents are being used by small startups in the YC batch and they have been helpful for them. We have not spent as much time working in the security space, and I do think that purpose-built sol
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