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If you have references to also help me piece this together I'd find that really helpful.
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Right, and in the interview linked [1] above they state: > The voucher generation is actually exactly what enables us not to have to begin processing all users’ content on our servers, which we’ve never done for iCloud Photos. But they d
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> The voucher generation is actually exactly what enables us not to have to begin processing all users’ content on our servers, which we’ve never done for iCloud Photos. I really dislike this statement. It's likely designed to be &q
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> there's a legitimate "slippery slope" argument The slippery slope argument is the only useful argument here. The fundamental issue with their PSI/CSAM system is that they already were scanning iCloud content [1] and
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Best I can find so far is this, which seems very similar to the method described, but is quite a bit later (1982): https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/3d/d5/b4/5beda28... > An anti-copy system whic
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Apple have already been doing this for sometime: https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/01/09/apples-scanning-... This is about the new PSI system: https://www.apple.com/child-safety/ In
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There's also an audiobook version, which I found pretty enjoyable (and generally well made considering it's free): https://unsong.libsyn.com I enjoyed all the interludes, the main plot seem mostly like a story on which
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The problem is AirTag is only really viable because of the huge number of iPhone users. Anyone with a recent iPhone will pickup the AirTag signal and report the location to the owner. Tile has somewhat similar functionality, but it doesn&#x
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That's a really interesting link, thanks. I'd not seen that. This statement: > The service requires Apple to maintain access to your data to help you recover it. For your privacy, Apple can’t access or help you recover your end
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This still seems like it would require a significant change in functionality, which they would likely announce. I.e. lose your lock code, lose all your data. Also, are you going to enter your lock code online to browse photos in a browser?
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The point is that offline content detection on data that will be uploaded to iCloud feels like a prelude to offline detection of all content on your device. In fact, given that Apple do not E2E encrypt backups and already implement CSAM fun
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Some have speculated that with the introduction of the PSI/CSAM system Apple will enable E2EE backups. Given the lack of an explicit statement on Apple's part and their history regarding E2EE backups (this article, and other state
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Given the lack of an explicit announcement this seems very unlikely. I don’t think Apple are stupid, it would have been a clear PR win if they said “we’re adding E2EE”. Given no explicit statement, and how drastically it changes the nature
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Sure, different devices can be used they share the same key as stated in the document. But it’s still not clear how that key is derived. It’s not clear, as implemented that Apple do not hold a master key to decrypt all data (as they do curr
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This document contains the following: > As part of setup, the device generates an encryption key for the user account, unknown to Apple. The question is, how is this generated. Can it be re-derived from information Apple has? If not, how
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Unless you have a public reference, I really doubt this is the case. Because they’d also need to be announcing that you can no longer reset your iCloud password and recover to a new device. And I’ve not seen anything that suggests this. So
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> Would you rather they keep photos non-E2E forever and have even more unfettered access to them than a "backdoor" allows? It does NOT scan photos that are not uploaded to the cloud, despite being on-device. Yes I'd rather
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> I equate this to Ring cameras. But it's just a totally different situation isn't it? I'm not personally opposed to the general concept of security cameras in public spaces. If you choose to install one on your property t
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There was some structuring in 2005. But Ito Yokado acquired majority control in 1991. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_%26_I_Holdings https://apnews.com/article/d5e836d5edac5600bbf626c97d8a2da3
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The acquisition happened in 1991 so it’s not a new thing. I’m really curious to understand how the relationship works though. And wonder if the US operations are largely independent or not.
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Ito-Yokado bought out 7-11, they were previously running the Japanese franchise, they also run supermarkets in Japan. But yes, the US 7-11s are now owned by a Japanese company.
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Reminds me of the Shaw quote: “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.”
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They were already doing it on the cloud: https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/01/09/apples-scanning-... So now they’re doing it on device too. This feels like it’s putting in place the foundation to scan all
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Yes they already seem to scan iCloud: https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/01/09/apples-scanning-... But I seriously doubt they will make iCloud end-to-end encrypted. If they wanted to do that they would hav
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Apple can decrypt data stored on iCloud, and they scan it already it seems: https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/01/09/apples-scanning-... Which it what makes adding the client side functionality even more p
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According to some reports they’ve been doing it server side for a while: https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/01/09/apples-scanning-...
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Apple have a fairly detailed page on the approach including independent evaluations. Which states that it’s only for iCloud. But there’s no reason why this couldn’t change in the future. https://www.apple.com/child-safety&#x
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What confuses me is the requirement for this capability. The technology is only used on photos that are being uploaded to iCloud. Apple can decrypt data on iCloud, so why not just do this offline? Doesn't make much sense. It makes me t
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This is a wonderfully detailed page. It makes me wonder if a formal naming process is also possible, given that origami is a largely linear, and well defined process. You'd start with a prefix which denotes the shape of the paper (squa
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There is likely a certain amount of that: https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14393135 However I would guess people are less likely to exercise self restraint when you're holding a huge unnecessary event. When
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