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netneutralish
10y ago
Reminds me of developing countries that leapfrog industrialized G8 countries in certain technologies, like skipping landline deployments and going straight for wireless networks.
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11y ago
You'd be right if the carrier denied data access beyond a certain limit despite advertising "unlimited". But if the carrier chooses to throttle an "unlimited" data plan and thus degrades the delivery speed outside o
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netneutralish
11y ago
I didn't know that but it makes sense from a liability perspective. Not sure if other prepaid offerings are similar.
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11y ago
As a parent, and as a person working in the wireless industry, I share this frustration. The main issue is that a true client-based parental-control solution will: a) eat up more data as the client's parental control component needs to
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netneutralish
11y ago
I don't see how throttling "unlimited" plans is a net neutrality problem It's one of the examples given during the FCC's bright-line guidance ( https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch&#x
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11y ago
People really care about this stuff. Hopefully enough people care about this to influence the FCC before T-Mobile meets them on January 15th to discuss their Binge On program as per: http://arstechnica.com/business/
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11y ago
Which MVNOs? I probably missed which, if any, MVNOs have better integrated WiFi wireless telecom services than T-Mobile because they're usually entirely dependent on the big four networks (Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile) for voice
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T-Mobile’s Binge On: When throttling may not break the rules
(arstechnica.com)
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11y ago
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11y ago
Re. "95% open spectrum" - Now we're really getting into the interesting tangents! I'm still on the fence about de-privatizing spectrum for a variety of reasons. But the biggest elephant in the room whenever discussing sp
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11y ago
Except where such variations in communications service are explicitly authorized by the consumer. A counter example that I bet T-Mobile is waiting to deploy is parental control. As strange as it sounds, there are actually families that pay
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11y ago
T-Mobile's loophole argument is two-fold: 1) they are allowing customers to opt-out (maybe they will concede this could be improved, but it doesn't change their fundamental desire to circumvent net neutrality); 2) content discrimi
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11y ago
It's various shades of spin. For unencrypted videos, T-Mobile might be using other techniques beyond throttling (e.g. downshifting the resolution). Or perhaps he's trying to get around strict throttling by claiming (in his head) t
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11y ago
I wish I could upvote you more than once. BingeOn provides limited relief for consumers using data while on-net, and are the most advanced amongst the American wireless carriers around integrated WiFi services. For example, they were the fi
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11y ago
You were downvoted because you are incorrect. The whole point of this debate is that wireless carriers were re-classified to fall under Title II of the Communications Act of 1934 and Section 706 of the Telecommunications Act of 1996 last Fe
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11y ago
To play devil's advocate here, does this mean companies shouldn't even offer time-limited freebies (e.g. promotional offerings "Buy 2 data packages for the price of 1! Limited Time offer!")? Or is the worry that only ind
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11y ago
After that, they degrade services that are not paying them and zero-rate + allow higher bitrates for services that pay them. "degrade services that are not paying them" and "allow higher bitrates for services that pay them&
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11y ago
Proprietary technology meant technology vendor technology bought and used by T-Mobile, not that it was proprietary to T-Mobile, unless Legere believes that T-Mobile's specific call flows or specific snowflake network configuration is p
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11y ago
For my volume of use (5-10GB/mo) T-Mobile is the cheapest provider in town. It's even cheaper if you don't opt out of BingeOn and can tolerate DVD (480p24) quality video streaming on your wireless device.
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11y ago
Netflix uses adaptive streaming to stream their videos. It is inherently a greedy algorithm; if the stream determines there is bandwidth available, without a throttle Netflix will try to go to 1080p (or whatever the highest bitrate availabl
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11y ago
To add to your point, you couldn't care less to know that your video was downgraded because you are still happy with the downgraded 480p quality.
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11y ago
When net neutrality's recent concrete lightning rod was around Netflix having to pay for their customers to have enhanced services, that was a clear case of favouring one type of service over another from a network QoS perspective. If
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11y ago
Great explanation. T-Mobile wins provided they can keep this up. At some point, for the most popular content, they're going to need to address network congestion and service impacts. Even if people opt-out, network congestion from the
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11y ago
And it's based on their business relationship with certain providers. If the bar to establish the business relationship was onerous, I'd completely agree. T-Mobile is undermining the argument by stating (whether true or not rema
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11y ago
Instead in a world where this is an accepted practice, in incentivises your ISP to provide awful, inadequate service to everyone that isn't paying them for special treatment. This is a valid concern when the carrier asks for money in
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11y ago
The regulation that forced telephone companies to connect to everyone is good in my books. That is an accessibility concern. If you're going to use that as the analogy, I'd say the content accessibility concern over wireless netwo
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11y ago
They're not acting as a gatekeeper in the strict sense of the word, because T-Mobile is allowing customers to opt-out of the zero-rating services and have the data count against their data buckets. Most issues with gatekeepers are what