nchmy

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by nchmy 1y ago
Sorry, I had no intention to frame it as being free. Fair point though. Do check it all out though - it's a breath of fresh air.
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by nchmy 1y ago
They literally don't care if people want to buy it. They tell people not to. So there's nothing to take on the chin.
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by nchmy 1y ago
I'm a user of datastar, nothing more. And I'm defending the developers against all of the baseless slander here. And now Im forced to defend myself against your baseless slander. If you cared to read, you'd see that I said
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by nchmy 1y ago
The sibling comment already thoroughly addressed all of this, so there's no need to me to do so other than to say that, despite your good intentions, you don't seem to have even the slightest understanding of open source. Here&#x2
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by nchmy 1y ago
Do you really not see how I was responding in-kind to them?
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by nchmy 1y ago
Makes sense! Nginx and redis are defintiely common for php. I haven't used Mercure at all, but I see no reason why it couldn't work with datastar. Might be something worth exploring, since it and the API Platform seem to be gainin
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by nchmy 1y ago
congrats, you have described external dependencies
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by nchmy 1y ago
datastar is backend agnostic - you generate the html however you want. you can check out this repo if you want to see a simple golang implementation. https://github.com/zangster300/northstar And all of the sdks have so
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by nchmy 1y ago
the htmx dev literally created idiomorph because, among other reasons, OOB isn't sufficient. A version of idiomorph is what datastar uses internally
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by nchmy 1y ago
I assume the "claim" is because it is built on web standards, so there's nothing really that'll break
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by nchmy 1y ago
Just wait til he embraces Go and uses Frankenphp + Mercure or NATS - a single binary that'll run on a raspberry pi!
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by nchmy 1y ago
One other comment though: a lot of what you said rests upon the notion that people were relying on these features. First, barely anyone used datastar at that point, and those features were particularly arcane. So, the impact was minimal. S
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by nchmy 1y ago
the spec is literally just data-* (hence the name): you can add whatever you want to it and remain in spec. And they're meant to be read by javascript (like datastar) https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/W
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by nchmy 1y ago
what's wrong with the names? they seem perfectly fine to me...
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by nchmy 1y ago
Ive made similar points to the maintainers. It is what it is at this point. But, honestly, to the people who actually understand, like and use Datastar, none of this matters. Most of the outrage is performative, at best - as can be seen b
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by nchmy 1y ago
HTMX doesnt do half of what datastar does. And datastar's free version does 99% of what the pro version does And react should be paying people to take on its immense performance and maintenance burden
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by nchmy 1y ago
Sorry, i can see how i misinterpreted the "necessary" part.
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by nchmy 1y ago
to elaborate on this for others, the datastar homepage has webcomponents such as the starfield animation at the top. And they;re releasing a fantastic web component framework/tool soon called Rocket. It'll be like Lit, but simpler
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by nchmy 1y ago
This website that we are communicating on returns html from the server. That's how the web works
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by nchmy 1y ago
some quibbles D* doesnt only use SSE. It can do normal http request-response as well. Though, SSE can also do 0, 1 or infinite responses too. Calling datastar's pro features "necessary" is a bit disingenuous - they literally
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by nchmy 1y ago
ALL OF THE LINES ARE ON THE SERVER FOR BOTH OF THEM! That's what ssr html is! Both are just small javascript libraries that allow you to do some interactive stuff declarative in your ssr html. But Datastar is smaller, simpler, more pow
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by nchmy 1y ago
...are you going to share anything about that skepticism to allow for people to respond...?
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by nchmy 1y ago
surely this is missing a /s at the end... surely...
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by nchmy 1y ago
in reality, neither of them make any such claims. And they are not html-like - they're literally html. Especially datastar, which doesnt add any non-html-spec attributes.
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by nchmy 1y ago
Datastar IS html, css and vanilla javascript. Its like jquery on steroids. It is anti-react. If that's what you're about, you'll love datastar
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by nchmy 1y ago
This is just SSR html/hypermedia in general - the way the web was designed and worked for a long time. This site is like that too! HTMX's html attributes are similarly defined in the backend. The difference with datastar is which
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by nchmy 1y ago
if we're talking about something immense, like redis, you might have a point. But we're talking about a few hundred lines of simple javascript that are still available to fork and update to be compatible with the new API. The fact
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by nchmy 1y ago
except the trap isnt actually set, and there's a mound of cheese next to it anyway
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by nchmy 1y ago
because the implication in this and so many other comments is that they're dishonestly hiding something. There was no other commentary other than a large and prominent comment saying "Watch the fuck out everyone! There be $ hidden
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by nchmy 1y ago
As someone who actually happily bought Pro, I completely agree with this. Inspector is great, and worth the (nominal) cost of Pro. I might use a couple other of the pro functions. I'm very much looking forward to Stellar CSS and Rock

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