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mrafiee
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mrafiee
7y ago
Thanks for the feedback. We have been looking into some SMB applications including property management. Would love to know more details about your use case if you are open to an offline discussion. We are actually storing on S3 (and only st
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Thanks for sharing. I had not seen those. Need to look into them more closely. We have been focused on stand alone cams. Nest shut down their APIs last year but they allow users to share their camera streams.
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what metadata specifically are you trying to get from the streams?
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That is correct with the caveat that their face must be visible/detected. At the moment, we count the number of unique persons using facial recognition.
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How about giving the users full control over them and let them delete them individually and also all of the past alerts at once after they view them?
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That is pretty interesting but non-trivial. We'll have to think about it. Thanks for the suggestion. I should mention our business model is not based on monetizing users data. I'm interested to know more about your personal projec
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Love that use case :) re your point about latency, that is one of the main reasons we are doing all the inference on the cloud. Almost all deep learning models (at least CV models) need GPU to run with low latency. That's true that if
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Ya I think finding the right balance between privacy related risks and cost/convenience/features is a an important aspect of this space.
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We have heard that specific use case quite a bit. Detecting shoplifting is very hard as there is not much visual distinction between a customer picking up an item to buy and someone shoplifting, at the moment they pick up the item. It would
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I agree with that. We have not been looking into enterprise applications much yet. The main limitation of using self-contained software is it would be dependent on hardware specifications (especially GPU) and can pose significant limitation
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Absolutely. We have been heads down working mostly on the product to get it out before the demo day but we will make that a high priority. thanks for the feedback!
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Ya I see your point. We have tried to take the privacy seriously from the beginning (and now realize we need to do more) but as far as not using the cloud at all, that would be a significant limitation on the type of inference that can be d
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I see. That is actually a great point and we have heard that concern from others as well. The cameras we are offering now come with local storage. We have been thinking of adding some capabilities when camera is offline but since we do the
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Thank you! I guess I should not have said that as we have not looked into all the nuances yet (some of which you mentioned), but we have taken many extra steps to design the product/architecture with the main principles in mind from th
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Thanks. Appreciate the feedback and the kind words! We will look into the use cases you mentioned.
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I see the value of what you are proposing but that would be useful only for tech savvy users (vs mainstream)...
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Are you suggesting not using cloud for privacy concerns? Based on the feedback from people's comments here, I realize we should do more to alleviate the privacy concerns. Curious on to know your thoughts about the following aspect: As
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Based on the feedback from people's comments here, I realize we should do more to alleviate the privacy concerns. Curious on to know your thoughts about the following aspect: As I mentioned, we only store short video clips correspondin
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I like the idea of having a different tier for people who are more tech savvy/patient. We currently allow users to provide feedback on alerts (thumbs up/down) which we use to make the models more accurate over time but training fr
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That is a great feedback. I will change the wording in the post to clarify but they are actually white label cameras that Wyze is selling and we are using the same white label cameras.
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Thanks for sharing. We will look into what they are doing.
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I completely agree with you re margin on the hardware being low. We are not planning on making any money on the hardware. But I also believe it is not possible for startups/companies that don't have copious resources (like Google
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Thanks for sharing. Valid points and very interesting! We have been mostly focused on building the technology before the demo and have been deferring tasks like adding more details to the website, finalizing privacy policy, etc. I expected
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That was actually my vision initially when I started working on the problem. I wanted to allow users to train their cameras for things they care about. But later decided to start with events that we can detect without requiring a lot of inp
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Thanks! We will look into it.
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I see. So you mean for the VMS solutions, not the stand alone IP cams (such as Nest, Ring, Wyze, doorbells, etc)?
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We are looking into various areas and are trying to find the best niche to focus on initially--does not have to be b2c necessarily. do you have any specific b2b application in mind?
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I hear you and understand the concern and appreciate the feedback. What do you use the cameras for if you don't mind me asking?
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Technically that is possible but it is a very involved process (and does not always work), also you would not be able to use Wyze's service anymore...
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Thanks :) we are definitely trying not to re-invent the wheel. We have been using various open source tools that are available and have been building on top of those... if you know of something that you think would be particularly useful fo
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