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minwcnt5
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Calling San Francisco a "town" diminishes what they've achieved. It is the second densest urban center and ride hailing market in the US, and a difficult place for humans to drive. I think being able to effectively replace Ub
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"640k ought to be enough for anybody" vibes.
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The cars were estimated to cost 150k, based on information that's now a few years out of date. Given that they've had time to push down the costs I wouldn't be surprised if it's significantly less now. (Probably still ov
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Per one of their engineers it's probably in the ballpark of one intervention per 50 trips: https://x.com/brianwilt/status/1850667523781562534 But also, each intervention only makes up a fraction of the trip&#
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2y ago
If my Tesla swerves into oncoming traffic with no warning and I get in a crash, who is responsible? If my Waymo ride does the same, who is responsible?
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2y ago
Didn't Uber raise over $30 billion from VCs before going public? It seems likely that they could continue for many more years at the current burn rate or even higher.
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2y ago
Got a source on that? Their former CEO said they're likely already profitable in San Francisco.
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I've heard that just acquiring and setting up the real estate and setting up depots takes a while. After all there aren't a bunch of robotaxi hubs sitting around in cities waiting to be bought or leased. That's where Tesla co
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A map is really just a data cache, I've been surprised so many technical people see it as a flaw. It seems like an important feature to me!
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It is fascinating how Google simultaneously provides a great lesson in how to leverage their primary competency of AI, as well as how not to (losing to OpenAI in LLMs).
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On the other hand, HN has consistently underestimated them for the last two years or so as they've begun to commercialize. Their trajectory has been 10x growth in rides served per year for a while now. At the current scale it's ha
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Will their robotaxi team even have jobs tomorrow? The demo is over, they delivered their project.
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It's wild, most Teslas I encounter drive fine, but every once in a while I see one driving completely erratically. Stopping 20 feet too soon at a stop sign, very weird positioning in lane, sudden acceleration or deceleration. I think I
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I don't know what to say man, Waymo takes me where I want to go several times a week (why would anyone be a repeat customer if it was just a demo?). My Tesla with FSD can't take me anywhere without me monitoring it.
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No, he's telling you that Waymo could do the same thing (and better) in 2015, yet it took them 8 more years to launch a robotaxi service. So, Tesla robotaxi in 2032 maybe?
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I don't think the people still saying self driving cars can't work have any sense of the scale Waymo is now operating at. At 100k+ trips per week, you could use the service in SF every day for your whole life and be unlikely to ev
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He went on to tell them that he's only expecting a wee little equity stake that's just a single digit percentage.
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Indeed, I heard there are plans for a giant equity stake to be awarded to a company called Notsam Naltman, LLC, which would leave nothing left to give to Sam Altman.
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2y ago
Also want to add: that this transition has happened in essentially less than a year is stunning. Technology can be wild.
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It's already that way within SF. I have stopped taking Uber/Lyft completely, only use them if I need to go to the airport.
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Tokyo has taxis and Ubers. I take them quite frequently when there, even though the public transit is amazing. The fact it's blatantly obvious that robotaxis make a ton of sense in even one of the most transit-friendly cities in the wo
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It works phenomenally well. I use it several times a week.
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Uber spent something like $20B+ before they first made a profit.
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Yeah but why would a passenger in a locked car that's loaded with cameras and connected to a call center be considered an easy target? And it's hard to tell if there's even someone in the Waymo because of the tinted windows.
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I've driven in NYC plenty. I think if they can navigate situations that are this narrow they can probably handle narrow roads in NYC adequately: https://youtu.be/YtbhoLp96DE?t=423 People said for a long time that self
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There seem to be a lot of prominent people in the valley, mostly who are heavily invested in competitors (e.g. VC Brad Gerstner), who like to spread the misconception that Waymo uses minimal AI and hand codes a lot of their system. They als
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They absolutely do run in the fog, I live in a particularly foggy part of the city and take them several times a week. And SF absolutely does have lots of narrow streets. There are a lot of neighborhoods where the roads are only wide enough
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Almost no rain? Not sure what you're smoking, SF gets rain on 70+ days of the year, and it's concentrated in the winter so you have about three months where it's constantly raining. Sure, east coast cities get more rain in to
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Some of the incidents were overblown, sure, but even before the pedestrian dragging incident the CA DMV had ordered them to scale back their fleet by 50%. I took a few rides with Cruise and it was clear it was not ready for prime time, the
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All modern AI is based on this, including self driving. Check out Waymo's research papers. They even have something called "Wayformer".
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