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23andMe's failure: A warning for genetic data privacy
(thehill.com)
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One factor is the format: it's a time-trial event, not a head-to-head race. So if a rider dies, it's hard to pin the blame on anyone but the rider, who clearly knew what they were signing up for.
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This article leaves so many unanswered questions, starting with the elephant in the room: how accurate is it? (Or how accurate do they expect it to be?) I found the answer here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_clo
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Yeah, this. Anyone who criticizes this project is simply revealing their ignorance of what it takes to build a product like this. Super-impressive. And the web-site looks top-notch too (though there is some constructive criticism in othe
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Just in case anyone besides me was wondering, he's 18 (the article didn't say). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gukesh_Dommaraju
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There are two problems with this. First, writing something down in English is very different from formalizing it. Natural language interacts with human brains in all kinds of complicated ways that we do not fully understand, so just becaus
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> A computer can not emulate a person’s brain. Earlier you wrote: > Can a computer beat Magnuson with the number of computations the computer can do limited to within one order of magnitude of what a human can do in the allotted time?
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Martians!
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> We can approximately solve these systems with computers. Yes, but with quantum measurements you cannot even approximate. Your predictions for e.g. a two-state system with equal amplitudes for the two states will be exactly right exact
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You have to either postulate randomness or describe how it arises from determinism. I don't see any other logical possibility. BTW, see this: https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9906015 for a valiant effort to ex
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Sure. So?
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> many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics is also unfalsifiable Yes, that's true. > all of them have deep problems Some are deeper than others.
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> humans did No. Not humans. One human. > The discussion is about human intelligence in general (particularly applied to bright people) not about my own intelligence and its limitations. OK, but if you're going to talk about h
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Well, yeah, maybe. There's a reason that the Measurement Problem is called what it is.
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Yes. So? What does that have to do with modeling measurements , i.e. the macroscopic process of humans doing experiments and observing the results?
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Well, yeah, obviously. But my point is that you do need a solution to the measurement problem in order to model measurements in any way other than simply punting and introducing randomness as a postulate.
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No, because the original map-vs-territory discussion had to do with the wave function: > Is the wavefunction epistemic or ontological? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42383854 Now we're talking about measureme
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> Yes. It’s a basic result proven in any mathematical logic course at the senior or beginning graduate level. OK, but note that you've moved the goal posts here. Your original question was: > Can an AI come up with the Incomplet
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> You don't need to make a random choice as part of your physical model You do if you want to model individual quantum measurements.
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The whole point of Turing Machines is to eliminate all of these different kinds of uncertainty. There is in point of actual physical fact no such thing as a Turing Machine. Digital computers are really analog under the hood, but they ar
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Yes, all this is true, but I think you're still missing the point I'm trying to make. Classical mechanics succumbs to statistics without any compromises in terms of being able to make reliable predictions using a TM. But quantum
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That's true, but "less strict" is understating the case pretty seriously. It's not enough for experimental physicists to lack free will. To rescue local hidden variables, nothing in the universe can have free will, n
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Power is not the point. The point is just that probabilistic TM's (i.e. TMs with a random oracle) are different . For example, the usual proof of the uncomputability of the halting problem does not apply to PTMs. The proof can be g
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> How do you know this? I don't. But it seems like a plausible hypothesis, and I see no compelling evidence to the contrary. > Can an AI or Turing Machine or whatever do the same? Can you?
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For QM it can be shown that there are no hidden variables, at least no local ones [1]. Quantum randomness really cannot be modeled by a TM. You need a random oracle. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell%27s_theorem
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Well, no. The measurements are the things that actually happen , the events that comprise reality. The distribution may be part of the map, but it is definitely not the territory.
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No, this has nothing to do with ontology vs epistemology. That's a philosophical problem. The problem here is that a measurement is a sample from a random distribution. A TM cannot emulate that. It can compute the distribution, but
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> Of course you can model quantum measurements! No, you can't. You can statistically model the results of multiple quantum measurements in the aggregate but you cannot model the physical process of a single measurement beca
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> Turing machines are only “universal” in the sense that they can represent any statement of mathematical logic That's not quite right. TM's in general are not universal. The "universality" of TMs has to do with the
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Well, let's see... NOT(FORALL(x): my-hat(x) -> green(x)) EXISTS(x): NOT(my-hat(x) -> green(x)) ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_quantification#Negat... EXISTS(x): NOT(NOT(my-hat(x)) OR green(x)) ;
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