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likeabbas
3y ago
I used to think most politicians were cooks. Now I realize most of them are very smart and have very different private opinions from the ones they scream at their base. This topic is a good example of showing how intelligent some congressme
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likeabbas
3y ago
They didn’t. Supposedly It crashed or landed and they built a building over it.
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likeabbas
3y ago
Well, he’s alleged that whoever is apart of the conspiracy has killed to protect this secret. Perhaps people have been too afraid to whistleblower because their lives were at stake
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likeabbas
3y ago
Don’t you think congress should investigate these crazy people then?
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likeabbas
3y ago
There’s a report that one of these craft are so large that it can’t be moved https://youtu.be/r-zjLas_WbM
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likeabbas
3y ago
You are 100% correct that this could be a giant psy-op constructed to convince people of something insane like aliens. From what I’ve heard, the ICIG has gotten testimony under oath from people purported to be apart of the reverse engineeri
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likeabbas
3y ago
Probably somewhere along the specifying people and corporations that are conducting illegal activities - such as withholding information from congress and even killing people to protect this information. Even if congress doesn’t refer him t
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likeabbas
3y ago
He’s testified under oath to the ICIG who found his claims “urgent and credible” ( which are legal terms. Credible meaning he’s corroborated some claims, and urgent meaning the ICIG had to forward the claims to the intelligence committees i
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3y ago
I haven’t asked anyone to look up anything. I’m just discussing what’s in the article and the sources the article is referencing. I’m happy to give people plenty of things to read or watch to catch up if you’d like - I won’t make you sleuth
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likeabbas
3y ago
Average person can’t do anything. Congress can investigate and subpoena any and all people involved and force them to disclose what they know. They can also use eminent domain to take the purported technology.
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3y ago
I’ll just say, he’s testified under oath to the ICIG who found his claims “urgent and credible” (which are legal terms). So with your idea, the ICIG is in on it too?
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likeabbas
3y ago
He’s made accusations against specific people and corporations saying they’ve been involved in illegal activities and withholding information from congress. People do go to jail for false accusations of this order
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likeabbas
3y ago
There is actually still a barrier both militarily and commercially until. The military still has mostly no formal structure for UAP reporting. AARO is working to set that up but only has a portion of the Naval Air Force set up and not any o
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likeabbas
3y ago
Or this situation gives the dogmatic hacker news posters something to hit refresh for
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likeabbas
3y ago
You're right to be skeptical of his claims. At the very least, you should support Congress investigating this issue. Because either there are some crazy people with access to the most sensitive state secrets we own, or they are telling
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likeabbas
3y ago
Well, here’s some of the most interesting videos I’ve seen taken by people. * https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/13dmaif/black_triangl... * https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/com
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3y ago
Most planes aren’t equipped with any camera systems. The videos commercial pilots and passengers use are their phones which have trouble focusing on objects half a mile away (which is very close for an aircraft to be next to another one but
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3y ago
Grusch has made the allegations that specific people and defense contractors are involved in illegal operations and are illegally withholding information from congress. So if you don’t think he will be tried for perjury as that article migh
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3y ago
> do US intelligence officers make completely truthful statements as a public as a practice? No. Intel (especially counter intel) officers are, trained to give information to convince someone of a certain context. Whether that informatio
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3y ago
Pilots, both commercial and military, are constantly under scrutiny to maintain a healthy mental state for fear of their license being revoked. You can not be mentally unstable and be a pilot. For years it was generally well accepted that p
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3y ago
How many times have you or any other intelligence official you know lied under oath to the ICIG or congress?
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likeabbas
3y ago
I’m not looking up some random online comment’s credentials to try to prove their own point. Your comment doesn’t stand on its own and if you’re not willing to clarify your credentials further then your argument is moot.
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3y ago
1. Grusch gave up his career in the intelligence community to whistleblow on this. He had everything to lose. 2. Grusch has testified under oath to the ICIG, both intelligence committees, and now to the house oversight committee. If he’s lo
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likeabbas
3y ago
Certainly to me, especially given he’s testified under oath to multiple congressional committees and the ICIG. He’s made some outrageous accusations that absolutely need to be investigated. Either he’s lying and we have crazy people in very
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3y ago
What was your rank? How many SAPs were you read into? Having Top Secret SCI clearance does not give you immediate access to every SAP you request to be read into. Most people are not read into more that a dozen SAPs. I’ll also point out tha
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Part of the issue is the stigma. Commercial pilots are afraid to come forward, and that’s why Ryan Graves came to this meeting because his mission is to reduce the stigma so pilots feel safe reporting this issue.
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3y ago
But there are democrats joining republicans in investigating this. Senator Gillibrand and Chick Schumer have introduced legislation specifically targeting this.
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Grusch gave program names, people involved, and locations of these special access programs purported to be reverse engineering non human technology to the ICIG and both intelligence committees in congress. Call your congressman and ask if h
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> They were all regular joes with uneventful military careers Grusch was a GS15 NGA officer that was read into over 2000 special access programs and prepared/delivered the presidential daily briefing in 2021. He’s quite literally on
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You haven’t provided a source for any of this. Let’s just look at the facts here. Grusch has given congressmen locations of where these alleged craft are held, program names that the SAPs are hiding under, and names of people involved. Cong
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