kiesel3rde

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Show HN: Lona 1.14 adds support for soft real-time communication(florianscherf.de)
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Show HN: True multi user applications with Lona 1.7.4 in full Python(lona-web.org)
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Show HN: Python Lona has fancy demos now(lona-web.org)
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by kiesel3rde 5y ago
I am sorry that you are still waiting. Currently i am very busy fixing bugs and helping people who started Lona projects in the last days. I only work on Lona at night because this is a side project. The hosting infrastructure behind lona-w
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by kiesel3rde 5y ago
Thats a very good question! I am a full stack developer and have no problems writing big applications in python, javascript, html, css and juggling multiple frameworks at once. Also i am very experienced with async code and asyncio. But at
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by kiesel3rde 5y ago
Interesting! I didn't know this project. Thanks!
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by kiesel3rde 5y ago
Its a trade-of. Most of my projects are services for <100 concurrent users on semi recent hardware. CPU time is cheap this days, developer time is expensive.
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by kiesel3rde 5y ago
Ah ok! I didn't know that
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by kiesel3rde 5y ago
Actually i don't know it exactly because i have no tooling in place to benchmark something like this. The Lona client has hooks which are called when the server needs to long to respond. Until now this was never a problem, neither in d
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by kiesel3rde 5y ago
Thanks!
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by kiesel3rde 5y ago
Thanks!
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by kiesel3rde 5y ago
No approach is right for every problem. For the applications i develop for work this python only approach really cleaned up the code. Lona can encapsulate html and its functionality into widgets ( https://lona-web.org/end-use
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by kiesel3rde 5y ago
@JPKab: Ah ok! Thanks for making this clear
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by kiesel3rde 5y ago
Thanks! Whoops! Thanks for the feedback (i am no native speaker)
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by kiesel3rde 5y ago
In my experience scattering an application over python and javascript ends in very messy code most of the time.
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by kiesel3rde 5y ago
Lona needs no cloud services because its meant to run on your infrastructure. It runs your code directly, no translation layer like in Plotly and all of its features are open source. No pricing whatsoever
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by kiesel3rde 5y ago
Ok. Plotly: if i read the docs correctly, Plotly converts python scripts to a web application and they can host the app for you. Lona is meant to be self hosted and runs the python directly. Streamlit: Streamlit provides an editor to create
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by kiesel3rde 5y ago
I never used Framework7 but at first glance there it should be no problem to use it in a Lona project. Lona has a contrib module that supports Bootstrap3 and Chart.js at the moment. Pretty much all frameworks that require common web technol
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by kiesel3rde 5y ago
Unfortunately i don't know plotly and have no experience with dart programming.
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by kiesel3rde 5y ago
Why do you think that? In fact i do exactly that for my company since beginning of the year and the code looks and runs better than everything we had before.
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by kiesel3rde 5y ago
I think one 20% of the total development time was spent on the javascript client. The client is not very complex. It pretty much makes DOM manipulation API's usable for the backend only
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by kiesel3rde 5y ago
Unfortunately not, but i will have some at lona-web.org/demos soon. There is a ready to use, barebones project linked in the docs. You have only to clone and run "make server" to fiddle around with it.
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by kiesel3rde 5y ago
Hi! I am fscherf on GitHub and started Lona as side project when covid related home office started in germany (march 2020). I am a full time python web developer and searched for a way to code entire web applications in python without javas
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Show HN: Lona – Framework for responsive web apps in full Python without JS(lona-web.org)
165 points by kiesel3rde 5y ago|80 comments