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Your not only one, but we (society) have ruined far prettier landscapes for far less tangible economic benefits. Hardly _any_ prairie ecosystems exist in NA, and we pretty much built a dam on every river with a pulse, ruining countless land
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I can't disagree with your take. Eventually (hopefully) there will be someone that doesn't sell out. Achieving Level 4/5 in corn/maize fields will be easier than Level 4/5 FSD in cars. My own theory is Deere knows&#
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The higher value crops (fruits, veggies) have different and more difficult problems than maize,soybean,wheat,cotton which are grown in huge fields with known parameters (thanks to precision planting, etc.). Having machines till the space be
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They and Case deserve to be dethroned. They _should_ understand the problem and have the engineers to solve it, but I think they haven't figured out how to monetize it so they slow-walk it or down play it.
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There are a few no doubt. For being either 10x or 100x simpler problem to solve than full self-driving, there are far fewer companies pursuing it. All of the tech companies and all the ICE car companies should (in theory) be able to solve t
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Autonomous machines operating in farm land in the USA. Several billion dollar companies could be spun up. Ripe for the taking right now/
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You are correct most beef is grain fed or at least grain finished. I believe that can be changed easily enough though. It’s an economic choice they make to grain finish, not necessarily an ecological one.
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I would say heat can be produced locally without having to raid other states natural resources. Ditto for AC in Texas. Better analogy would be like shipping beach sand from FL to Wyoming because they want beaches and FL has a lot of sand.
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The monopoly exists because they pay artificially low prices for water. Those crops grow just fine in many locations and even controlled environments. If ag left the Central Valley, we would find a way. Likely not even a difficult problem a
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Appreciate your comments but your simply wrong or misunderstanding what biologists can do. Also, those nuts and fruits and avacados you currently like weren’t bred for taste. Likely bred for transportability and shelf life. That’s why expor
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I was trying to imply once water sourcing becomes a major issues, basic needs for residents will become hard. Agriculture is small % but if water is a problem, there will be some exodus of people/corps. That’s where the big gdp hits wo
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Respectfully disagree. We can engineer the 150k nuts acres to grow just fine. Or Modify the plants to be cold tolerant. We know a lot about Plant genetics and physiology. Just haven’t had the incentive.
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Fair. Got heated in some comments. That said, I do think water “wars” will be a thing in the not so distant future. Gonna get nasty IRL. Not meant to incite, just a prediction
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Linked article is talking about transferring water farther though. We can pipe desal water west to east instead of fresh water east to west. Either way, AZ needs it from somewhere
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We can engineer the crops (plant breeding) or engineer the water (current system). Eastern geographies that are rain fed could replace CA production no problem
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This is true. But, some places like native grasslands have no other viable economic use other than raising cattle/beef. These grasslands are fed by rainfall so the displacement cost is zero. Different story when there are competeing in
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Fruits and vegetables existed before the Central Valley you know. CA doesn’t have a monopoly on producing those. I’m fine not eating salad in December if you give all the water back from the Colorado river.
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Why should you be guaranteed water if you live in CA? It’s an arid ecosystem that naturally has fires (chapparal) and low rainfall. It can only support so much life. Just because there are great views and great climate, the fatal flaw is la
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selling mineral or water rights for a dime today is poor short term thinking. How did the owens valley owners make out after selling there water? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_water_wars ETA: although only
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_water_wars Tell me how CA hasn’t been greedy in their pursuit of water
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We can grow that food in others places that get rainfall. If they won’t grow, we can and should breed them so they do grow.
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You think CA would still be 5th in GDP without reliable water? Unless desalination becomes more efficient, CA is thirsty.
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Long and convoluted story. Mostly agriculture driven and not residential. Cadallic desert is a good Book
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Please stay away from our water. I want no part in helping California become more unsustainable. ETA: to westerners- You have enough water to maintain first class lifestyles. Allocate/ration it better or cap population. Stop stealing f
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Ask HN: Stealth Agriculture Startups?
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Correct, problem is the most productive land isn't always the most profitable. That's how you end up with Maize grown in Western Kansas under dryland conditions.
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Unexpected Lincoln East encounter in HN…
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Lol, that's his normal look. He has a rep for being in perpetual poor shape
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Having spent alot of time in controlled environments, the name is misleading. These are chip making clean facilities. I'd guess >99% of CE facilities have to spray pesticides. Thrips, white flies, and other insects are _very_ common
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One thing that is almost undebatable about communism is that it is NOT better for farming. Russian collectivism and the Chinese great leap forward are about the only data points needed. The comment above me about community gardens is correc
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