joshenders

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by joshenders 5y ago
Oops. I didn’t answer your question. > Specifically Pinterest image result clutter? No, not at all and quite the opposite. If I see a result is on Pinterest, specifically a pin result, I’m more likely to click it because I know the image
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by joshenders 5y ago
Because I answered the same question below in two lengthy posts before responding to this response.
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by joshenders 5y ago
> - A search engine is good when it provides results that are useful and what you wanted. Agree and I would add that the many relevant results you see today would not appear if it were not for Pinterest users adding context to images and
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by joshenders 5y ago
Hyperbole aside, can you describe specifically what about the user experience you find abysmal?
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by joshenders 5y ago
I understand the frustration with speed bumps but for the majority of people (US users at least) the signup nag is dismissible and for the rest of the world, it’s a simple speed bump which helps maintain the operation of the business and pr
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by joshenders 5y ago
Do you consider hackernews to be “hijacking” news content? Pinterest is no different.
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by joshenders 5y ago
I think there’s some confusion with how the product works: The images are scraped on behalf of user request along with relevant information from the originating webpage. The goal is that all pins on Pinterest are actionable (in nearly all c
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by joshenders 5y ago
I was able to repro with a VPN on .co.uk . It looks like for some ccTLD (target markets) the nag UI isn’t directly dismissible. This seems to have happened after my time there. I understand the frustration. Either create an account, use a U
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by joshenders 5y ago
By “expert user” I just mean “power user”. Didn’t intend for that to come across as an insult. Scroll a little bit, the X is in the top left. We made that change in 2017 or so. Just confirmed it still behaves this way on .com for keyword la
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by joshenders 5y ago
*Pin quality, not relevance
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by joshenders 5y ago
Disagree. If you want to debate me, let’s hear your argument.
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by joshenders 5y ago
If “this” is the signup nag, then yes. It’s largely ignored because the nag can be easily closed and only non-expert users don’t understand this.
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by joshenders 5y ago
I don’t think you’d be very satisfied with your remaining search results.
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by joshenders 5y ago
After answering some other questions it occurred to me that Google may have been incentivized by our intention and ability to improve results for image searches. E.g at scrape time, when an image becomes a “pin”, we were essentially creatin
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by joshenders 5y ago
I’ve been exposed to data on this for years and I can say concretely that the average user is getting more relevant image search results than ever before… many just happen to be “search optimized” and “proxied” by the same punching bag, Pin
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by joshenders 5y ago
That’s an interesting perspective but I don’t think it’s well calibrated for the modern web.
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by joshenders 5y ago
You’re mischaracterizing the user experience. As a logged out user the signup nag can be easily closed or ignored and is identical to the logged in user’s. Often times Pinterest has a copy of the image and metadata when the original site ma
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by joshenders 5y ago
The effort behind search engine optimization wasn’t based on the goal of improving any specific product flow (usually). Most if not all changes were gated behind the outcome of before/after and A/B experiments which were almost so
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by joshenders 5y ago
I was at Pinterest from 2014 to 2020, so a total of 6 years. I lead a team and was enamored with the product. I saw hyper growth from a 250 employee company to 3,000. I rang the IPO bell at NYSE. Was Pinterest shady? No, not at all. Most em
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by joshenders 5y ago
Please elaborate
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by joshenders 5y ago
Yes, absolutely. I would love nothing more than for every Pin on Pinterest to link to the relevant website or have rich contextual information. I honestly don’t think it was that difficult technically (in most cases) but IMHO “pin relevanc
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by joshenders 5y ago
> You have us completely irrelevant hits. Pinterest is intentionally designed to facilitate rich context around images. That’s kind of the whole idea and value proposition of the service. Most “Pins” are created with the Pin-it button br
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by joshenders 5y ago
Sure, just as any other site is. The source in the article speaking about “size savings” of reducing images is clearly non-technical. That was not the reason as our S3 and CDN budget was essentially infinite. I would say the main negative o
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by joshenders 5y ago
No. We absolutely did not pay for ranking or anything like that.
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by joshenders 5y ago
I don’t have a good answer for that but I can describe the feeling I got in these meetings: They were pretty guarded and cagey about everything to be honest. Felt like a favor from a trusted internal contact but our contacts there would not
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by joshenders 5y ago
Hi, I worked at Pinterest and heavily supported the “Growth SEO” team from the infrastructure side 2014-2018 including attending weekly joint meetings between Pinterest and Google. I am primarily responsible for many key internal initiative
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TikTok Blocks US Users with Hong Kong ESIMs(twitter.com)
14 points by joshenders 5y ago|3 comments
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by joshenders 5y ago
Flag the article. I noticed this too.
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Origins of SARS-CoV-2(jamiemetzl.com)
7 points by joshenders 5y ago|1 comments
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by joshenders 5y ago
jimsi, employees are also extremely active on Twitter. It’s not the most scalable but that’s usually my goto for eyebrow raising Cf related questions.

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