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by jfarmer 13y ago
Sorry, I don't think you're understanding me. Ironically, this is a demonstration of the point I was trying to make. :D You see/read/hear something. It doesn't make sense to you. It seems ridiculous. How do you
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by jfarmer 13y ago
If you're admittedly ignorant, how can you tell whether the answer is ridiculous or there's something critical you're not understanding? What happens if the answer is not ridiculous but is utterly inconsistent with your curr
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by jfarmer 13y ago
You and your complexifyin' aren't welcome around here, friend! All that nuance just makes our arguments much harder to make. You'd best take it elsewhere.
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by jfarmer 13y ago
You've obviously made a serious study of this and that's why you have such justifiably strong opinions on the matter. Can you do 10 minutes of googling next time and share more? Or maybe 20?! Think of how informed you'd be
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by jfarmer 13y ago
> On top of that, I know several women in the industry, from marketing wizard to expert programmer with publish credits, who have to tip toe when they go to a company because men are being trained that all women are like Shanley in the i
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by jfarmer 13y ago
Louis CK has many smart and funny things to say on this topic (race, here, not gender for the most part): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4LkrQCyIz8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=derzWWYf3-w ht
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by jfarmer 13y ago
To be honest, I didn't realize we were arguing until it turned into this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y&t=1m18s Before that I thought I was just sharing a personal story with you to illustrate someone
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by jfarmer 13y ago
I am privileged and realize I am privileged. What are you talking about? Mantra?
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by jfarmer 13y ago
Yeah, I'm not going to play Calvinball with you. Sorry!
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by jfarmer 13y ago
So? I was telling a story from my personal experience to try to demonstrate how that statement (in isolation) reeks of privilege. It does not reek of male privilege, which I'm admittedly less sensitive to than class privilege. But im
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by jfarmer 13y ago
Look, the most important thing here is to make sure that study can be used to confirm hajile's prior beliefs, ok? Let's keep our eye on the prize.
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by jfarmer 13y ago
> If someone was going to be really good at programming they would have found it on their own. Then if you go look at the bios of successful founders this is invariably the case, they were all hacking on computers at age 13. I am by most
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by jfarmer 13y ago
> I wonder if it is just something about startups - higher risk, lower guaranteed reward, worse training programs, higher pressure. This is explained equally well by inexperienced managers hiring people similar to themselves culturally,
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by jfarmer 13y ago
You know your analogy is loaded and constructed in a way to make any rebuttal logically impossible. That's doesn't seem particularly sincere, especially given that the core element of what tptacek said was that one shouldn&#x27
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by jfarmer 13y ago
It doesn't require that one has "100+ hrs of reading feminist literature." I don't have that many hours. Indeed, I don't know if I've read anything that could be classified as "feminist literature"
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by jfarmer 13y ago
Did you read the first link, "A Primer on Privilege?" It's actually quite good: http://brown-betty.livejournal.com/305643.html
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by jfarmer 13y ago
I don't find your tone too hostile. I think you're being insincere and aren't actually interested in having a conversation about any of this. I wrote what I wrote in my original comment not as a preemptive "defense"
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by jfarmer 13y ago
He's talking about the reflexive defensiveness many young dudes in the technology industry have when the topic of privilege is brought up. Often it's associated with a feeling of shame, as if the person using the word were trying
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by jfarmer 13y ago
> As for the first article, as I've already said, I already knew (in an intellectual sense) that being poor is a disadvantage. This is not the point of the essay. > I'm in dire need of enlightenment it seems. Heh. Ok, I&#x2
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by jfarmer 13y ago
You got me.
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by jfarmer 13y ago
I don't want to derail the conversation since the #1 hurdle is the collective blindness people have to the concept on HN and in the tech community at large. It's a complex thing to understand and I don't claim to understand
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by jfarmer 13y ago
A person willing to learn says, "That's interesting and it doesn't make sense to me for X, Y, and Z reasons. I'm obviously not getting something and am probably confused about something important." That is not wha
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by jfarmer 13y ago
I have a hard time believing you're genuinely interested in understanding the concept since you're putting up resistance at every step. I'm not here to make you want to learn — I was presuming you already did. If not, my m
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by jfarmer 13y ago
> Try to read them without being reflexive or poking holes in them. If you find yourself getting riled up or defensive stop and ask yourself why you're feeling the need to respond that way. So, why did you feel the need to respond a
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by jfarmer 13y ago
It does sound like you wanted it more or at least had a way of approaching the problem that made it possible for you to get what you wanted more easily than my student did. But let's teleport all the people pg or anyone else here would
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by jfarmer 13y ago
I'm not sure what you mean by "solution." To abolish privilege? That's neither possible nor desirable, IMO. Privilege exists wherever there's a differential in power for any reason. The problem is being blind to
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by jfarmer 13y ago
First, privilege is not a bogus concept. If you really believe that — about anything, not just privilege — you'll have a hard time learning it or amending your understanding of it because of things like confirmation bias. Second, your
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by jfarmer 13y ago
IMO, folks on HN need to do much less discussing on this topic and a lot more listening. For the most part, HN is collectively blind to issues of power and privilege. For those interested in learning more about privilege, read these two es
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by jfarmer 13y ago
First, I'll say, tptacek, virtually everything you write on HN is spot on, but it's most on when you're talking about issues of sexism, racism, power, and privilege. The tech industry suffers from a collective privilege-blin
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by jfarmer 13y ago
It's worth mentioning that Saunders MacLane, along with Samuel Eilenberg, invented category theory.

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