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inputmice
7y ago
I call BS on the story. But the fact that this is somewhat plausible and probably within Google’s rights is telling.
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inputmice
7y ago
As someone who has worked extensively with XMPP in the last ~6 years let me tell you that it works fine with network hopping, multiple devices and everything else you'd come to expect from a modern IM experience in the likes of WhatsAp
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inputmice
7y ago
No I don’t use it daily. It can’t even send emails yet and you have to set your login credentials at compile time. I got frustrated having to deal with HTML emails and now I’m waiting for the servers to mature a bit. And honestly also for d
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inputmice
7y ago
The strong suit of JMAP (among other things) is getting access to specific properties of a server side parsed email. It will do the MIME parsing for you; separate attachments and text bodies from each other and for example allows a client t
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inputmice
7y ago
Pretty cool protocol. I've been following this for a couple of years. I had already written a library for an earlier version of JMAP (back then references worked differently / didn’t exist); and it was interesting to see how that
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A pathway to a well regulated instant messaging market
(gultsch.de)
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7y ago
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inputmice
7y ago
$8/month is rather steep for some email and IM hosting. So there should be revenue left to share with you and the other upstream projects. Personal side note: I’m not a fan of branding open source apps. It delays security updates and w
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inputmice
8y ago
FWIW this is completely reasonable. Push in XMPP works the same way. They way FCM (Google) and APNS (Apple) work is that only the app vendor with proper credentials can trigger push notification for an app. Therefor it has to be proxied thr
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inputmice
8y ago
But it has. It is enabled by default
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Show HN: Quicksy – Jabber with phone number verification and contact discovery
(quicksy.im)
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8y ago
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8y ago
The battery consumption of Conversations with or without FCM is about the same. (Battery consumption in both cases depends on a lot of factors like frequency of messages, quality of network or even how often your operating system kills Conv
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Why it took two years to enable E2EE by default in Conversations
(gultsch.de)
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9y ago
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inputmice
9y ago
And here is the response to that https://gultsch.de/objection.html
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Conversations Is an Open Source and Secure Jabber/XMPP Client for Android
(xda-developers.com)
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9y ago
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Conversations the Android XMPP client is currently free on the PlayStore
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inputmice
10y ago
There is dino: https://github.com/dino/dino It's still very early in the development but it looks pretty good.
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inputmice
10y ago
Xabber never fixed that even though their development branch has at least some activity? That's good prioritizing…
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inputmice
10y ago
Co-author of the OMEMO standard and lead developer of Conversations here. To answer your question one after the other. > What do we think about this protocol? It's the first encryption protocol that allowed me to actually use it on
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Conversations v1.15.0 released with new trust/verification concept
(gultsch.de)
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10y ago
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inputmice
10y ago
here is roughly the same information in an essay by the same author: https://gultsch.de/xmpp_2016.html if you don't have the time to watch a 45 minute video. and the relevant discussion on HN: https://news.y
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inputmice
10y ago
have a look at https://account.conversations.im I'm - the author of the essay and developer of Conversations - are running this server with one of the ejabberd developers. That server is really up-to-date and has everything
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inputmice
10y ago
It's impossible to get reliably statistics in a federated system. (Which of course is the entire point.) but looking at the little data I have from people sending me bug reports over XMPP at seems that a lot of Conversations users ar
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10y ago
> There's a reason that everyone using Conversations essentially has to use a server that is maintained by the developers. That is completely untrue. First of all there are public servers that have exactly the same feature set like
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inputmice
10y ago
Push messages on GCM are going through immediately. The push server is not queuing up messages to send them all at once. I admit that could be helpful but Google is not doing this either. The alarm manager - where apps can schedule to be ru
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10y ago
I'm just wondering what makes someone look at an XMPP client like Conversations and say: "This is fundamental flawed let's completely reinvent the wheel. There is no way we can ever get a good UX out of this" Matrix migh
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10y ago
I'm not bad mouthing anything. It's just that Matrix doesn't solve any problems XMPP hasn't already solved or could have solved with an extension. Matrix is basically a pointer to a stream of messages. You could have eas
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inputmice
10y ago
This is a confinement of OTR. OTR was never made for modern day instant messaging. Use OMEMO or send unencrypted messages and you won't have this problem.
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inputmice
10y ago
Before you dismiss XMPP and seek for alternatives that need at least another 5-10 years to be actually usable (looking at you [matrix]) you might want to take a look at how far XMPP has come in the last 2-3 years. The Android client Convers