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by igouy 2y ago
For your convenience: https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/... > no significant amount of bignum arithmetic There is none shown in the charts. There is none shown elsewhere apart from where ar
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by igouy 2y ago
> Erlang is interpreted. https://www.erlang.org/blog/the-road-to-the-jit/
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by igouy 2y ago
* But it’s not that easy. Filters some but maybe not all and maybe filters some wrongly.
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by igouy 2y ago
In any case, because the charts are frequently cut & pasted out-of-context they should not include pi-digits and regex-redux data. Now they don't, so thank you. If you don't think it's appropriate to compare the pi-digits
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by igouy 2y ago
https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/... Sure looks like it's written in Java!
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by igouy 2y ago
https://www.wilfred.me.uk/blog/2014/10/20/the-fastest-bigint... Look at all the programming language implementations that provide big integers by calling out to GMP. Why would it be "cheating"
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by igouy 2y ago
https://www.wilfred.me.uk/blog/2014/10/20/the-fastest-bigint... Look at all the programming language implementations that provide big integers by calling out to GMP. Why would it be "cheating"
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by igouy 2y ago
> one uses intrinsics and the other doesn't Why? Did you mean both use intrinsics or both don't? > Sometimes, you just want to see As-it-says, look for more-secs less-gz-source-code -- probably less optimised.
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by igouy 2y ago
> language vs. language Where there are few enough programs that readers should check that the programs they compare seem appropriate for their purpose.
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by igouy 2y ago
Like the hand-written vector instructions | "unsafe" section down-page? https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/... It’s not that easy. I assume other programs hide the use in macros and
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by igouy 2y ago
No, they do not "frequently just call out to C libraries". 2 of 10 (pidigits and regex-redux) allow use of widely available third party libraries — GMP, PCRE, RE2 — because there were language implementations that simply wrapped t
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by igouy 2y ago
March 7, 1988 — "Smalltalk/V 286 is available now and costs $199.95, the company said. Registered users of Digitalk's Smalltalk/V can upgrade for $75 until June 1." https://books.google.com/books?id=
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by igouy 2y ago
> I don’t think that’s a fair comparison Shouldn't simd use make it less likely JS would be within magnitude, so if compared against simd programs and the JS is still less than 10x slower then that strengthens jampekka's point?
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by igouy 2y ago
There are plain C++ programs: n-body C++ g++ #3 https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/...
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by igouy 2y ago
> Couldn't find C vs JS easily Try: A) Find JS in the box plot charts https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/... or B) Find JS in the detail https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.de
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by igouy 2y ago
> Fig. 4. "This simple model captures the relationship implied in Pereira et al., namely that the choice of programming language has a direct impact on total energy consumption." "Pereira et al." state that "the
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by igouy 2y ago
> Those papers say "language" over and over again, in the titles, in the body of the text. Yes they do! And over and over again in-context we sensibly read that to mean what you wish to term more precisely "language implem
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by igouy 2y ago
Thank you. I'm concerned that section 2.2.1 is a misreading of Pereira et al. [29] "… the performance of a language is influenced by the quality of its compiler, virtual machine, garbage collector, available libraries, etc."
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by igouy 2y ago
> would not have resulted in accurate comparison Because? Is the reasoning for that spelled-out somewhere in the paper? > Section 4.5.2 > Section 4.5.1 After the paper had discussed “Pereira et al.” I repeatedly confused discussion
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by igouy 2y ago
Perhaps clarifications rather than questions. > "Critique: 2.2.1 Programming Language versus Implementation" In context, it seems possible to read "Programming Language" as shorthand for "Programming Language Imp
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by igouy 2y ago
Also https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammingLanguages/comments/1g0vf...
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by igouy 2y ago
Also see https://github.com/nicovank/Energy-Languages
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by igouy 2y ago
What do you mean?
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by igouy 2y ago
> I think it's an excellent question. Because?
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by igouy 2y ago
> … object orientation has failed in multiple incarnations, late binding has failed, live systems have failed, etc What's your definition of failed?
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by igouy 2y ago
> "There’s an infamous example of how this affects benchmarks — The Computer Language Benchmarks Game. There’s more variance among programs in the same language than there is between languages." The article has nothing to do wi
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by igouy 2y ago
> Reproducibility becomes something you need to actively worry about Back in the '90s ENVY/Developer https://books.google.com/books?id=ld6E19QIMo4C&printsec=fron...
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by igouy 2y ago
> some of which are mentioned in this thread Tell us which three you regard as most important; and which of the 61 comments in that thread demonstrate most clearly that they are important failings.
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by igouy 2y ago
For example ? (And which point was proved.)
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by igouy 2y ago
> need to put them into text files at some point Because? Because we want to backup and archive. Because we want to share code with others.

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