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by g051051 5y ago
With an answer? What you're calling "common sense" is nonsense to many people.
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> But this guidebook can help you through that journey—moving away from barren ceremonies to the vigor that we felt when James and I first used these techniques all those years ago. This explains so much...this was something they enjoy
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by g051051 5y ago
You're lucky. During my most recent job search (January 2021) nearly every recruiter ping I got either stated that they were using agile as a selling point, or listed it in the job description as a required skill. If I have any say in
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by g051051 5y ago
Well, since they came up with "Agile", it's pretty clear they didn't actually survey what worked and what didn't. They were consultants selling methodologies, and came up with something that was so poorly defined a
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The alternative is the way that software was successfully developed and delivered for the decades prior to the existence of the Agile manifesto, and the software that was successfully developed and delivered in the time between when the man
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by g051051 5y ago
Your question implies that there was no successful software development before the Agile Manifesto was written, and that all successful software development since it was written has been exclusively done as "agile" development.
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> Agile, in a nutshell, says "let's stop being counterproductive (and miserable), it's better for everyone (except maybe sadists and masochists)". Where does "agile" say any of that?
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> It seems many on this thread did not live through the bad old days of waterfall and .mil standard development. A total nightmare. Scrum and agile are absolutely wonderful in comparison. I did. Scrum and "agile" are far, far
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by g051051 5y ago
> Its not. I have worked at a bunch. And yet consistently, everywhere I look , I see that "agile" simply doesn't work as described. Every article like this one treating "agile" as intrinsic truth is responded t
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100% agreement on all points.
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by g051051 5y ago
That's a very reasonable statement, and is much easier to debate. In my experience, it's been the opposite...attempting to apply those four "value" results in more problems than it ever solves, because those four "
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by g051051 5y ago
But why does it seem to be the case for every organization? Not just ones I personally worked for, but I get the same reports from peers all over the US, in very different businesses.
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> Where agile often went off the rails is when people implemented agile in a way that contradicts the four values "If your attempt at agile goes off the rails, you probably implemented it in a way that contradicts the four values&qu
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by g051051 5y ago
We can discuss all that at the retro.
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How is it common sense?
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I've yet to meet an "agile" proponent that didn't act like a religious zealot.
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> In my experience the core values of agile were fine. Where agile often went off the rails is when people implemented agile in a way that contradicts the four values. Definitely not pure garbage. In my experience, "agile" went
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by g051051 5y ago
> Those four sentences are now an unchallenged way to better develop software in general Pure garbage. Those 4 "values" are incredibly destructive and have led to far more problems than they ever potentially might have solve
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by g051051 5y ago
Yes! I never encountered any of the problems that the so-called "Agile" manifesto and the absurd processes that accreted around it. The current trend just seems amateurish to me, compared to what it strives to replace.
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by g051051 5y ago
I was treating the AGILE rendering as a warning. DANGER! AGILE!
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The problem is the analogy doesn't map. You (supposedly) do agile to produce software faster/cheaper/better, but what is baseball making better? Playing baseball is the sole goal. So in that respect it's actually accu
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by g051051 5y ago
Typing lag...that reminds me of something I saw in the 90's. Someone was trying to figure out a production problem and asked for help. I sat down at their computer, and was trying to use their terminal shell window (HP/UX). It
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by g051051 5y ago
I've just always considered understanding and being able to debug your environment to be a standard part of the job. As a professional software developer working in a Solaris environment, knowing how Solaris works, how to use the shel
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by g051051 5y ago
The obsession with Agile, Scrum, sprints, and points ground our entire organization to a halt.
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I didn't mind so much, as I was well compensated in general. It was only in the last few years that Agile cultists took over and managed to ruin the place completely. After a long, painful decline, my entire group was laid off, from
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by g051051 5y ago
I'm not surprised that Twitter has those teams, I'm always surprised that more places don't. About 22 years ago I was the only person at the company I worked for at the time who could analyze Solaris core dumps, and understo
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Considering that the main purpose was to sell consulting services and certifications, it's "mission accomplished".
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I never knew that! Thanks.
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Eh, I didn't actually care for it. It hit a little too close to home.
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Back in the early 2000's Visual Age for Java allowed you to version individual methods. Since Visual Age for Java was derived from Visual Age for Smalltalk (and was actually written in Smalltalk) I suppose it inherited the capability

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