> It seems many on this thread did not live through the bad old days of waterfall and .mil standard development. A total nightmare. Scrum and agile are absolute

> It seems many on this thread did not live through the bad old days of waterfall and .mil standard development. A total nightmare. Scrum and agile are absolutely wonderful in comparison. I did. Scrum and "agile" are far, far worse, based on what I've seen and experienced. Those "bad old days" were heaven compared to the bizarre approach currently in vogue. I will be very happy when this fad passes as well. > But where agile really shines is when the problem is poorly understood and the solution not well defined. That's the problem...people think that you can just use "agile" and not worry about understanding the problem and developing a solid solution. You just start slamming out code and checking back with the customer, wasting huge amounts of time and effort.