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forteller
13y ago
Free as in Freedom :)
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forteller
13y ago
You might very well be right. Using XMPP is not important to me. The important thing is the goal of moving as many people as possible over from closed to Free/Open systems.
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forteller
13y ago
Yes, you are of course right about that. It might just be a sign of my age that I just mentioned Facebook as the bad guy in my post… :)
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forteller
13y ago
Did you read the article? It's about weakening, not replacing. As I say: «Facebook is taking over the web and we need to save it. The issue is too complex to have one solution. The most obvious solution is federated social networks, bu
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forteller
13y ago
Absolutely. That's why I say we need many more things to take down Facebook. This is just about starting, making it a little bit easier for people to not spend close to 100% of their online lives in the walled garden of Facebook, by gi
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forteller
13y ago
That sounds exactly like the idea behind federated social networks. I've blogged about that in my post 'Think like the internet – Or how to fight Facebook, and win" http://blogg.forteller.net/2011/think-i
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forteller
13y ago
Yes, that's a good thing. But it's only one tiny piece of the puzzle. It's like saying "if you want to tackle climate change don't try to lobby the government for stricter regulations or for a price on carbon, just
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forteller
13y ago
As the author I have to disagree. All I'm asking is that they make the Free/Open Atom and RSS feeds work at least as good as the streams in Facebook does, and that they implement chat. First one: That only needs to switch the Feed
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13y ago
You have to remember that just by being a person who read Hacker News you are not a regular person. I really don't mean to be harsh, but it doesn't much matter what you prefer or that you find this trend of running things in the b
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13y ago
The browser already is a chat client for millions of people. It's called Facebook. So since the browser already is the only chat client tons of people use, why not make it a client for a Free/Open chat system instead of Facebooks
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forteller
13y ago
> This is a bad idea because a web browser should not become a chat or client as well. Well, the browser already is a chat client for millions of people. It's called Facebook. So since the browser already is the only chat client ton
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forteller
13y ago
Yes, you're right. They tried to integrate social networks in the browser. But as you say: They went over the top. I'm just suggesting making feeds easier/better and integrating a chat function not dependent on Facebook or an
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13y ago
Thanks! I also put up a mirror over on WP.com: http://forteller.wordpress.com/2013/11/05/mirror-first-steps...
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forteller
13y ago
Sorry about my server going down! You can read a mirror over on WordPress.com: http://forteller.wordpress.com/2013/11/05/mirror-first-steps...
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13y ago
Well, as I say in the blog post: «I’m sure there are some extensions out there doing all this already. But that’s just not good enough. It needs to be built into the browser to make it easy and visible enough.» What do I mean not visible en
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13y ago
It gives you a huge network/user base who would never install a stand-alone client, but who let Facebook lock them in to their chat system because it's dead simple. Remember, this is not about making life easier for geeks like us,
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Features Firefox should implement to weaken Facebook's stranglehold of the web
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