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doall
9y ago
I know there was such suggestion, but it still does not cover my full comment. Also "valuearb" says there was no chance, but I say there were alternative ways and indeed there were. Atomic bomb is costly and takes time to produce,
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> Most likely Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved a million Japanese lives. No, there were alternative ways. Before dropping to the city, you can just drop it to the mountains or along the sea coast to show the power of the bomb. If it doesn&#x
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9y ago
Since I have to wait for more than an hour to reply in a deep comment level, I will reply here to kbp. >The confusion seems to stem from your insistence on using the word "original" to mean the pure Lisp described in the 1960 p
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doall
9y ago
Thanks for an interesting reference. This seems to be an important paper and I would like to take time later and read it in more depth.
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doall
9y ago
>Your answer seems to just be that your definition of Lisp means the subset described in the 1960 paper, Not true. I also consider LISP I as LISP, Common Lisp as LISP, and understand people calling Scheme as LISP, or Clojure as LISP. I r
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9y ago
>McCarthy's earlier work on Lisp wasn't Lisp. I didn't say this. I have already explained about the difference between the first LISP implementation and the core language written in the 1960 paper. There is no one true def
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http://jmc.stanford.edu/articles/lisp/lisp.pdf " One mathematical consideration that influenced LISP was to express programs as applicative expressions built up from variables and constants using functions. I
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>Two of Graham's Seven Primitive Operators are car and cdr. These names come from the IBM 704 implementation; Since the 1960 paper is after the LISP I manual and Graham's article is based on that paper the actual wordings are c
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>I think the argument comes because your initial statement was "The original LISP is pure functional," which isn't true. Since LISP I is the real first implementation, I don't mean the original LISP in the sense of th
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>It's a comstruction of a pure subset variant of Lisp. We viewed it as the core of LISP and this is just one view of LISP. >The actual LISP wasn't pure. Not before this particular paper and not after. LISP I is not pure and
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>In the paper McCarthy mentions also: >'6. A ``program feature'' allows programs containing assignment and go to statements in the style of ALGOL.' >'7. Computation with floating point numbers is possible i
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>The language LISP I in 1960 had numbers, side-effects and sequential execution. Yes, true. But in this context Paul Graham was talking about the language defined in the 1960 paper below and not LISP I. " Recursive Functions of Symb
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>My point was that I have never seen any evidence that such an idea was ever called Lisp. I'm not the only one who has this view. From Paul Graham, http://www.paulgraham.com/rootsoflisp.html " There were alread
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9y ago
So the definition of "LISP" matters. Your definition of LISP seems to be the actual implementation, such as LISP 1. But as many historians say, LISP was invented in 1958, which the implementation did not even exist. From this fact
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In the paper you shown "One mathematical consideration that influenced LISP was to express programs as applicative expressions built up from variables and constants using functions. I considered it important to make these expressions o
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John McCarthy is not the one who implemented LISP 1 in IBM 704, but it is Steve Russell. McCarthy invented the idea of LISP in 1958 https://www-cs.stanford.edu/memoriam/professor-john-mccarthy that is before the 1960 p
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The implementation by Steve Russell includes those facilities, but the original idea of LISP by John McCarthy don't have to include those facilities and can be implemented as a pure functional language and is shown in the paper.
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I'm not talking about the implementation of LISP 1 by Steve Russell, but the original idea of LISP invented by John McCarthy that shows its purity, and that is before the implementation by Russell.
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The original paper of LISP by John McCarthy http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/recursive.html Or the more accessible explanation by Paul Graham http://www.paulgraham.com/rootsoflisp.html There are onl
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The original LISP is pure functional in the sense that you don't change state of an object.
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He talks about common patterns of master programmers, but does not define what master programmers are, and why he thinks they are masters in the first place. I really don't get the point of this article.
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Watched the related part of the video. I don't know if it was because of sexism, but it was clearly rude and annoying. The excited native, faster and louder speaking moderator taking over a kind, non-native, slower and smaller speaker.
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10y ago
The Tokyo District Public Prosecutors Office, including tsunami and earthquake experts had been investigating for years and concluded that it was not predictable. There may be different opinions, but so far no clear evidence shows that it w
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doall
10y ago
It was preventable, but as the Tokyo District Public Prosecutors Office says, it was not predictable. Aftermath is easy :)
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doall
10y ago
Just a typo, but you mean Clojure? :)
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10y ago
Yes, the graduate school paper exam of Todai is not difficult compared to the undergraduate entrance exam for that age. The graduate one only requires the very basics to do research. Requirements are different.
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10y ago
Tao definitely knows about prime numbers. Whether mathematical approach he takes, he is relevant to the field. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green–Tao_theorem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_
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10y ago
One little-known fact is that to be accepted by todai is not that difficult compared to be accepted by todai risan (the medical doctor course). About 3000 people enter todai every year but only 100 are accepted to risan. Recently as a trend
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doall
10y ago
Because there are huge side effects by copying the "US way". If you want a much smaller scale and a weaker version of the US then adopt it. That is definitely not what the Japanese people want.
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