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dlubarov
1y ago
Actually there's a Wikipedia guideline (WP:BIASED) along the lines of "bias doesn't necessarily make a source unreliable", which in practice is taken to mean that bias doesn't matter. Of course in practice, editors
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dlubarov
1y ago
Do you have a source? Israel says the ceasefire started this morning, and they've already been withdrawing troops.
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dlubarov
1y ago
No, there was literally a public Google form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScndnMojIJoflfSPTD2... They later moved to a self-hosted form, which remains available to anyone who wants to report a pu
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dlubarov
1y ago
> the only recorded deaths are ones that happen in hospitals This was only true early in the conflict; Hamas has long since been adding in casualties reported by "reliable media sources" as well as a Google form.
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1y ago
That wasn't me. I would say the question of how often UN officials lie is rather moot. If it follows from plain facts and basic math that the famine claim is false, we don't really need to argue about the credibility of those maki
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dlubarov
1y ago
Claims of famine citing the UN/IPC are normally appeals to authority, whose convincingness depends on the credibility of the authority. The UNWatch article isn't that - you can easy verify their points yourself. I.e. by IPC's
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1y ago
I would say most definitions are fine. Here's the Oxford Languages one for example, > a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel Every "rea
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1y ago
> This is a misunderstanding of Wikipedia policy. It's not a policy, it's a summary of past community discussions. > In particular the ADL is still considered a reliable source outside of a few narrow circumstances. They
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1y ago
Not really. There's no particular policy basis for objecting to biased sources, so this only comes up when - An occasional newcomer tries to raise concerns, before being informed that it's pointless because Al Jazeera has been dee
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1y ago
The strawman is that Hamas is intercepting all the aid. Sure people occasionally say that, but you're attacking an oversimplification of the real underlying points, which are that - Groups of men with rifles tend to be belligerents in
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dlubarov
1y ago
> why did they ban foreign media from Gaza For the same various reasons (safety, opsec, etc) every modern military does. Ukraine for example only allows invited, escorted media in "red" zones. Most people seem to understand and
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1y ago
These are interceptions of trucks, not people grabbing a few items as a truck passes by. I didn't say they're all Hamas; again the relevant thing is that they're being intercepted and not making it to ordinary civilians.
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1y ago
That's just spin; there's no way to peacefully intercept the vehicles. The drivers don't stop because a hungry person asked politely. > it could very well be that the IDF is intercepting them covertly This seems like a pre
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1y ago
It's not as if Hamas is only counting hospital/morgue records. There's a Google form where any Gazan can report a casualty. The drop is to be expected, since the fighting was much more intense in earlier phases of the war.
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1y ago
> "Anyone who wants to thwart ..." That's an unverified quote which Netanyahu denied saying. > Hamas changed their charter in 2017 and supported the 1967 borders. First it's only certain Westerns who like to frame
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He took a credible claim by the IPC and changed several things (~12 months -> 48 hours, 6mo-5yr children -> babies, acute malnutrition -> death), making it patently false. There's no excuse for that kind of deliberate disinfor
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1y ago
Who is suggesting making it 0?
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dlubarov
1y ago
The note about bias does nothing to prevent it from being used. Wikipedia doesn't really have any policy of avoiding biased sources; see WP:BIASED. The live blog warning is mostly ignored in practice, even though it reflects a broader
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1y ago
The UN's own data ( https://app.un2720.org/tracking ) shows 86,531 pallets were intercepted, while only 26,772 pallets arrived at their intended destination. We don't know many of the interceptions Hamas was behind,
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1y ago
The source ratings (for sources that have been discussed substantially) are on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Per...
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The 680k estimate is from [1], which essentially - begins with the high estimate from [2], which uses some very questionable data (like WhatApp chats) to argue that most deaths were not counted by GHM - extrapolates it to the present, as if
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> unknown if they participated There's clear public footage of Faisal Ali Musalam Naami (UNRWA employee) participating, at least. The Telegram chats also show widespread support for Oct 7 and other overt antisemitism - https:/
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1y ago
He didn't mention any legal basis for the thread. A city major can't exactly overrule congress and sign the Rome Statute.
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1y ago
If you're basing this on the Lancet letter about indirect deaths, that's an estimate that includes future deaths that could be linked to past events of the war. So "have been" isn't the right tense. It's also
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dlubarov
1y ago
> There is no such thing as significant minority. Huh? You'll have to explain that one.
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dlubarov
1y ago
Do you have some kind of response that isn't just an ad hominem?
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> Modern Israel was created through the Balfour declaration. Not really, Israel was created 31 years after it. > ICC ICC charges do not include genocide; Khan sought an extermination charge which the pre-trial chamber rejected. > I
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Yes, that incident looked pretty bad. Bad things happen in every war, we just don't tend to hear much when it's not Israel. For example, Ukraine had some cases of prisoner abuse like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki&#
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I don't have the capacity to investigate all of them. I would be suspicious of lists that include a hostage-keeper, with no mention of his other activities outside of journalism, as well as many purported journalists with no particular
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> Germany was still launching ballistic missiles at England a month after Dresden. Just in the past 24 hours, there were rockets launched from Gaza toward Ashdod - https://www.timesofisrael.com/two-rockets-fired-at-ashdod
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