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by disneygibson 5y ago
That’s what happened in Western Europe.
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by disneygibson 5y ago
They found a known poison in the doses years later. I hardly think a one off study is conclusive for determining that there were no bad side effects.
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by disneygibson 5y ago
No, that’s just a Western-centric misunderstanding of geopolitics. China promises to not interfere in local politics, unlike the US and their crusade to remake the entire world in their own image. Ergo in a world of less-than-ideal choices,
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by disneygibson 5y ago
There is significant research indicating that these things are socially contagious.
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by disneygibson 5y ago
You are misunderstanding me. These books argue that Rome partially fell because it became too focused on luxury and pleasure.
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by disneygibson 5y ago
The early history of the polio vaccine had many situations like this. In 1960, the rhesus monkey kidney cells used to prepare the poliovirus vaccines were determined to be infected with the simian virus-40 (SV40),[36] which was also discov
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by disneygibson 5y ago
Yes indeed it does. But I am criticizing the draconian enforcement, not the taking of the vaccine itself.
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by disneygibson 5y ago
The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire is a good place to start. Spengler in his works has a cyclical view of civilizations, which you might also enjoy. Many “cyclical” ideologies also have similar ideas going back millennia. Hinduism for
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by disneygibson 5y ago
I’m not proving anything. Simply saying that we lack data and if we go by past examples, we have a reason to be cautious. Again, you lack a basic understanding of the scientific method.
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by disneygibson 5y ago
No, it’s basic medical knowledge. You seem to have very little understanding of how medicine works.
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by disneygibson 5y ago
This really isn’t hard to understand. In the past, some substances were thought to be safe, but turned out not to be. The “it’s safe” period of time was longer than a year. Ergo it is reasonable to assume that we can’t know all of the side
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by disneygibson 5y ago
There have been many negative side effects of other vaccines which were discovered after years of study. This is basic medical knowledge. Not a conspiracy.
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by disneygibson 5y ago
So you think that all side effects of substances are either noticeable in the first year or not at all? Have you heard of DDT?
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by disneygibson 5y ago
It is really scary how trustful people are of pharmaceutical corporations. We don’t even need to go back to DDT; the opioid epidemic was quite recent. What happened to the skeptics?
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by disneygibson 5y ago
That would count if our question was “What are the likely side effects after one year?” But it’s not. The question is long term side effects. Unless you have a time machine, I’m gonna say we can’t know those for quite a bit - unlike other v
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by disneygibson 5y ago
If it’s a new vaccine unlike most others, doesn’t that imply that historical information is not as relevant as it would be otherwise?
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by disneygibson 5y ago
No, I’m saying that when faced with the choice between comfort and difficulty, many people in the past chose difficulty. To insist that they would trade their religious beliefs, for example, for internet and Uber eats is rather myopic.
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by disneygibson 5y ago
So we can know the long term effects of a novel vaccine but we can’t know the long term effects of COVID? How does that make any sense? Don’t you think it’s more reasonable to assume we don’t know either?
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by disneygibson 5y ago
It has nothing to do with SCOTUS specifically. I can’t keep repeating the same thing over and over again.
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by disneygibson 5y ago
It may seem hard to believe, but not every civilization throughout history has put consumerism and comfort above all other values.
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by disneygibson 5y ago
No I’m simply rejecting your framing of the discussion. Rights are not a question of votes. It is not up for deciding democratically. To frame the question this way is to fundamentally misunderstand how rights work.
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by disneygibson 5y ago
Please, enlighten me.
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by disneygibson 5y ago
When was it common to prevent people from entering a restaurant unless they were vaccinated with a vaccine that itself had only been developed 15 months prior?
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by disneygibson 5y ago
Most of the new things didn’t exist before. This is…basic information. Even if they did, it’s pretty obvious that they have been dramatically increased in the last 18 months. You seem extremely uninformed.
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by disneygibson 5y ago
Have you been following the events in Australia, at all? Linking to pre-Covid sources is a bit like linking to a pre-Hiroshima encyclopedia entry about nuclear energy.
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by disneygibson 5y ago
No, they wouldn’t, considering that they explicitly set up difficult lives for themselves according to their values. And no, you can’t read the minds of long dead people either. Is it really so difficult to consider that we live in a scared
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by disneygibson 5y ago
Conspiracy implies organization. There is no need for a conspiracy, simply the collective sum of individual selfish choices.
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by disneygibson 5y ago
That wasn’t the average lifespan of people who reached adulthood. Infant mortality was simply higher.
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by disneygibson 5y ago
Like I said, your ancestors had 99% more courage and confidence in the face of danger you can’t even begin to imagine. But, we are a terrified people and so we continue to build a safety space cocoon around ourselves.
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by disneygibson 5y ago
No, that isn’t how rights work. They are guarantees that cannot be violated, no matter how democratically popular they are.

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