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daxfohl
8mo ago
Haha "customers". Nobody cares about customers anymore. Investors are all that matter. They're the ones who want to see AI. Once you've pleased the investors, profitability is just accounting tricks. As the adage says, i
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8mo ago
Saw that too. It says the October blip was due to a one-time movement of gold. (IDK what that implies economically, just pointing it out).
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8mo ago
The funny thing is that the rest of the software industry is dying, except for the trillions of venture capital being invested into these AI coding whatevers. But given the slow death of software, once these AI coding whatevers are finished
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8mo ago
Pretty slick. I've been wanting something like this that gets stored with a hash that is stored in the corresponding code change commit message. It'd be good for postmortems of unnoticed hallucinations, and might even be useful to
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8mo ago
Yes, I was just thinking about how, as engineers, we're trained to document every thought that has ever crossed our minds, for liability and future reference. Yet once an LLM is done with its task, the "hit by a bus" scenario
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8mo ago
And so we learn that over 2000 years before the microphone came to be, Socrates invented the mic drop. In all seriousness though, it's just crazy that anybody is thinking these things at the dawn of civilization.
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8mo ago
That's actually a good comparison. Though even then, I imagine you at least have the ability to get on the phone and ask what they just did. Whereas LLM would just be like, "IDK, that was my twin brother. I'd ask him directly
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8mo ago
I am a devops engineer and understand your point. But there's a huge difference: legacy code doesn't change. Yeah occasionally something weird will happen and you've got to dig into it, but it's pretty rare, and usually
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8mo ago
Now that it's real, is there a minimum bar of non-AI-generated code that should be required in any production product? Like if 100% of the code is AI generated (or even doom-tabbed) and something goes wrong in prod, (crash, record corr
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8mo ago
Of all the looming tipping points whereby humans could destroy the fabric of their existence, this one has to be the stupidest. And therefore the most likely.
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8mo ago
> unstated bet (except where it's been stated, championed, enforced, and ultimated in no unequivocal terms by every executive in the tech industry)
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8mo ago
Which matches what they are. They're first and foremost pattern recognition engines extraordinaire. If they can identify some pattern that's out of whack in your code compared to something in the training data, or a bug that is si
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8mo ago
To be clear I don't think that's what they're doing intentionally. Especially on a subscription basis, they'd rather me maximize my value per token, or just not use them. Lulling users into using tokens unproductively is
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8mo ago
Businesses too. For two years it's been "throw everything into AI." But now that shit is getting real, are they really feeling so coy about letting AI run ahead of their engineering team's ability to manage it? How lon
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I still find in these instances there's at least a 50% chance it has taken a shortcut somewhere: created a new, bigger bug in something that just happened not to have a unit test covering it, or broke an "implicit" requiremen
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I'm curious to see what effect this change has on leadership. For the last two years it's been "put everything you can into AI coding, or else!" with quotas and firings and whatever else. Now that AI is at the stage wher
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8mo ago
Supply and demand. There will continue to be a need for engineers to manage these systems and get them to do the thing you actually want, to understand implications of design tradeoffs and help stakeholders weigh the pros and cons. Some peo
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I worry about the "brain atrophy" part, as I've felt this too. And not just atrophy, but even moreso I think it's evolving into "complacency". Like there have been multiple times now where I wanted the code to
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9mo ago
Not only that, it's constitution. I'm finding this with myself. After vibe coding for a month or so I let my subscription expire. Now when I look at the code it's like "ugh you mean now I have to think about this with m
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9mo ago
I guess there needs to be a definition of "agent". To my intuition, the "agent" approach means multiple independent AI automata working in parallel and communicating via some async channels, each managing only its own co
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9mo ago
There's no need to anthropomorphize though. One loop that maintains some state and various context trees gets you all that in a more controlled fashion, and you can do things like cache KV caches across sessions, roll back a session gl
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9mo ago
True, though even then I kind of wonder what's the point. Once they build an AI that's as good as a human coder but 1000x faster, parallelization no longer buys you anything. Writing and deploying the code is no longer the bottlen
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9mo ago
Yeah, hence the "when/if". Still a few model generations off, IMO. But if it happens, I think "serialization of feature development" is going to have an outsized effect on architecture, process, planning, deployment
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9mo ago
IME "Risk 2: Distributed Monolith" always comes back to bite. You have a nice separation of concerns at first, but then a quarter later there's some new feature request that cuts across those boundaries, and you're force
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I want it to generate better code but less of it, and be more proactive about getting human feedback before it starts going off the rails. This sounds like an inexorable push in the opposite direction. I can see this approach being useful o
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I like it but wonder why it seems so slow compared to the chatgpt web interface. I still find myself more productive copying and pasting from chat much of the time. You get virtually instant feedback, and it feels far more natural when you&
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I tried something similar, but distilled to "solve this maze" as a first-person text adventure, and while it usually solved it eventually, it almost always backtracked through fully-explored dead ends multiple times before finally
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The whole AGI industry is like one of those projects that claims "90% finished" from the time of the first demo, then for the next N years, all the way up until the project is eventually canceled. Yeah we can spew out millions of
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The whole industry is like one of those projects that claims "90% finished" from the time of the first demo, then for the next N years, all the way up until the project is eventually canceled. Except this project already has trill
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Though the fact that the code is so incoherent and inconsistent plausibly makes it more impressive that they still managed to make something that works at all, and weakens the argument that "all they did was copy/translate some ex
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