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Businesses too. For two years it's been "throw everything into AI." But now that shit is getting real, are they really feeling so coy about letting AI run ahead
by daxfohl 8mo ago
Businesses too. For two years it's been "throw everything into AI." But now that shit is getting real, are they really feeling so coy about letting AI run ahead of their engineering team's ability to manage it? How long will it be until we start seeing outages that just don't get resolved because the engineers have lost the plot?
- throwup238 8mo agoHow long until “the LLM did it it” is just as effective as “AWS is down, not my fault”?
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- draxil 8mo agoThis to me is the point.. LLMs can't be responsible for things. It sits with a human.
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- taylorius 8mo agoWhy can LLMs not be responsible for things? (genuine question - I'm not certain myself).
- pvab3 8mo agobecause it doesn't have any skin in the game and can't be punished, and can't be rewarded for succeeding. Its reputation, career, and dignity are nonexistent.
- direwolf20 8mo agoThis doesn't seem to have stopped anyone before.
- pvab3 8mo agoStopped anyone from doing what? Assigning responsibility to someone with nothing to lose, no dignity or pride, and immune from financial or social injury?
- taylorius 8mo agoOn the contrary - the LLM has had it's own version of "skin in the game" through the whole of it's training. Reinforcement learning is nothing but that. Why is that less real than putting a person in prison. Is it because of the LLM itself, or because you don't trust the people selling it to you?
- oblio 8mo agoAre you claiming that LLMs are... sentient? Bold claim, Taylor.
- shaftoe 8mo agoIf you’re just a gladhander for an algorithm, what are you really needed for?
- sarchertech 8mo agoNever because the only reason that works with Amazon is that everyone is down at the exact same time.
- direwolf20 8mo agoEveryone will suffer from slop code at the same time.
- sarchertech 8mo agoYeah but that's very different from an AWS outage. Everyone's website being down for a day every year or 2 is something that it's very hard to take advantage of as a competitor. That's not true for software that is just terrible all the time.
- scorpioxy 8mo agoFrom what I am seeing, no one is feeling coy simply because of the cost savings that management is able to show the higher-ups and shareholders. At that level, there's very little understanding of anything technical and outages or bugs will simply get a "we've asked our technical resources to work on it". But every one understands that spending $50 when you were spending $100 is a great achievement. That's if you stop and not think about any downsides. Said management will then take the bonuses and disappear before the explosions start with their resume glowing about all the cost savings and team leadership achievements. I've experienced this first hand very recently.
- daxfohl 8mo agoOf all the looming tipping points whereby humans could destroy the fabric of their existence, this one has to be the stupidest. And therefore the most likely.
- bgilroy26 8mo agoThere really ought to be a class of professionals like forensic accountants who can show up in a corrupted organization and do a post mortem on their management of technical debt