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danShumway
2y ago
I think you may have accidentally misread my post, or maybe I didn't word it carefully enough (in which case I apologize for the confusion). I don't prefer Steam. As a consumer, on principle in most cases I refuse to buy from it.
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I'm already using Manifest V3 in Firefox for a few personal private addons that I develop, and I can confirm that blocking network requests already work perfectly fine in it. The only issues I have with Manifest V3 in Firefox are techn
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> Ideally someone could create their own spec to replace or supplement declarativeNetRequest in mv3. And ideally write specifications to support that. Or include it in MV3. Firefox's implementation for MV3 avoids this problem almost
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2y ago
Fair point. I do think Steam is engaged in anti-competitive behavior, but that doesn't mean they're the full equivalent of the app store. And we can see on the PC market the large number of indie games that very literally would no
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> by your argument Apple should get 99.9% of the fees No, by my argument, even if someone believes that Apple is somehow morally entitled to a specific level of compensation for running the app store, it is absurd to argue that the amo
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"Apple isn't being doing anything bad, they're just like the music industry" is a heck of an argument to make. Do you think the average person would argue that the music industry isn't exploitative?
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2y ago
If you're suggesting that Steam doesn't have an effective monopoly on the PC market, I have bad news for you. One of the biggest differences between Steam and Apple is that Steam does a better job of hiding the effects from users
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2y ago
"a cut of that" is doing a heck of a lot of work here to handwave the amount they're asking for. A "cut" in this case means such a high percentage of the transaction that if Patreon didn't pass the extra cost o
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2y ago
:shrug: It would be nice to have alternatives, like you say, it's not like Patreon is particularly good at this. I understand that payment processing is kind of hellish to deal with, but that wouldn't be a barrier to a company the
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Admittedly, I also wondered about this. I'm taking Patreon at their word (for now), but I would welcome Apple making some kind of statement indicating that Patreon is allowed to disable payments in the app. And if it is true that they&
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2y ago
This gets brought up a lot in conversations about Apple. In one sense, I agree with it. Patreon is a rent-seeking middleman who abuses network effects. 100%. But the creators on Patreon who's income are going to be most affected by thi
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2y ago
> If most apple users refuse to go outside the app store for their content, Than clearly they care more about the ease of access than the content itself. Does Apple's refusal to allow apps to tell users about lower prices elsewhere
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2y ago
This is extremely well phrased. I will say, I do have opinions about what to do ;) But parent comment is right that I'm not trying to advocate for those opinions above, someone might completely disagree with me about how to respond to
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> The problem with "fairness" is that there is no objective measure of it. Everybody evaluates fairness according to how it aligns with their own personal interests. With respect, this sounds a little bit like you're agree
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Only on HN would I see someone argue that depreciating or stagnant assets are the same thing as a 30% transaction fee. This community is smart enough to be able to tell the difference between a tax on revenue and a tax on profit. Apple
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Or, I would argue, like if a realtor made more money off of the sale than the person selling the house made.
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Another point that Patreon isn't really emphasizing here that seems relevant to any conversations about "fairness" is that Apple's fees on Patreon subscriptions in-app are now higher than Patreon's fees. It's
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2y ago
> those services are typically not the same as what you can get at Walmart. Several things: A) Apple doesn't sell a creator subscription service that's the same as what you can get from Patreon. B) You can advertise inside of a
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> Apple has also made clear that if creators on Patreon continue to use unsupported billing models or disable transactions in the iOS app, we will be at risk of having the entire app removed from their App Store.
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Do we know whether or not iOS's subscription model supports pausing? I guess I assume Patreon would mention if it didn't.
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When was the last time you bought any large item from a physical store that didn't come with advertisements in the packaging for direct services? If you buy a Disney DVD from Walmart, there will be advertisements inside the DVD case fo
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> Find me a list of cases https://9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2024/03/UNITE... Emphasis mine: On whether platform APIs (like those in a web-browser) can be anti-competitive: >
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Case in point of what I was talking about above, femoid's comment is what you're going to run into if you interact with terf spaces, and it regularly spills out to attacks on cisgender people as well. It's not uncommon for te
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Google is literally being sued right now for, in part, using browsers (both its own and others through browser deals) to privilege it's own services. No, the FTC was not created for the purpose of the Internet, but that is not a thing
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> How can you consolidate the facts that "man" and "woman" mean absolutely nothing, they don't describe how you act, express or present, but at the same time you can feel like a "man" We could have a lo
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> There is no contract, except in your head. I... what? Today I learned that the Federal Trade Commission is a figment of my imagination. I'm sorry, your argument has devolved to the point where you're now saying that Chrome pr
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> All you've done is swap "men must be masculine" for "anyone masculine is a man". No, very literally the opposite of that. I'm saying if someone calls themselves a man , I believe them. I don't care i
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"Google should not use a near-monopoly position in the browser to privilege it's own sites and services" is a very simple standard, and this really is not a complex case. It only becomes complicated if you start trying to rep
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These men's internal gender identity is masculine. That's why they are calling themselves men. This comment is actually kind of a really good example of what I was explaining up above. It's a very terf kind of thing to look a
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> as this implies that men need to behave in a certain way, present in a certain way, think in a certain way to be considered men. This gets brought up sometimes in terf talking points, but as a practical reality, it's nonsense. Eve
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