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carlwgeorge
9mo ago
The source trees in a form suitable for modification (and pull requests) are here: https://gitlab.com/redhat/centos-stream/rpms
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carlwgeorge
10mo ago
It's not a totally different distro, it's a different variant of the same distro. Back when I was on the release team I would create builds, release them in CentOS Stream 8, then a few months later release them in CentOS Linux 8.
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carlwgeorge
10mo ago
CentOS Stream has major versions and EOL dates, and thus is not a rolling release. It functions as the RHEL major version branch and follows the RHEL compatibility rules, so it's the same major version stability as RHEL. While you may
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carlwgeorge
10mo ago
It warms my heart to see someone else recognize this. The bug-for-bug model that classic CentOS Linux followed was fundamentally broken. Sure there were lots of consumers, but without the ability to fix bugs or accept contributions it was
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carlwgeorge
1y ago
Mesa is kept current enough in CentOS that a backport isn't necessary. It's currently at version 25.0.7, same as Fedora 41.
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carlwgeorge
1y ago
Each version of CentOS Stream is maintained for about 5.5 years, plenty to qualify as an LTS and significantly longer than Fedora (the base for non-LTS Bluefin).
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carlwgeorge
1y ago
> Heaven forbid you run RHEL on RHEL in containers, you’re gonna get fleeced. You can run unlimited RHEL containers on a subscribed RHEL system. It's even set up where if you run a UBI container (a redistributable subset of RHEL co
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carlwgeorge
1y ago
> But you skip over that. It's pretty common to reply to specific aspects of a comment. That's what the markdown quote notation is for (even if it doesn't render properly on this site). > I think as a compressed timelin
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carlwgeorge
1y ago
> Around the same time, Red Hat discontinued its free Red Hat Linux and replaced it with the paid-for Red Hat Enterprise Linux and the free, unsupported Fedora Core. This is a common misconception. RHEL and RHL co-existed for a bit. Th
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carlwgeorge
1y ago
Then why does this article give "special thanks" to Fedora, but not Red Hat? Or point out the fact that the vast majority of the Fedora RISC-V porting work is being done by Red Hat employees?
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carlwgeorge
1y ago
Ubuntu Pro and RHEL are both 10 years for their standard lifecycle, with optional add-ons to go longer. Ubuntu's is called "Legacy Support" to get an extra 2 years, RHEL's is called "Extended Life-cycle Support&quo
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carlwgeorge
1y ago
> Kind of like how RHEL used to still provide contributions to CentOS for a long time (although I think that ended at some point too). RHEL contributes to CentOS now more than ever. CentOS started outside of Red Hat (2003), and didn'
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carlwgeorge
1y ago
DNF didn't start as a competitive fork of Yum, it started as the Python 3 rewrite of Yum from the same developers. It was really just Yum version 4, using a different name so it could be installed in parallel with Yum for an extended
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carlwgeorge
1y ago
This blog post uses a really weak report as the source for its information. The survey used for the report only got 433 responses. Based on the percentages given in the report, RHEL-related distro usage breaks down like this among the res
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carlwgeorge
2y ago
That doesn't show any actual FIPS certificate numbers. Neither does the top link. If CIQ has any FIPS certificates I can't image why they wouldn't list them prominently to remove any doubt. That's what Red Hat does.
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carlwgeorge
2y ago
The planning to swap the RHEL/CentOS relationship (i.e. CentOS Stream) long predated even the "intent to acquire" announcement from IBM, and of course the actual acquisition as well.
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carlwgeorge
2y ago
CentOS is not a rolling release. It has major versions and EOL dates.
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carlwgeorge
2y ago
So you say "it would be easy and seamless", but did you ever actually do it and upgrade to RHEL? Because most people throw that out as a supposed sales pipeline that was lost, but the real life metrics indicate that almost never
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carlwgeorge
2y ago
You created an alt account with "centos" in the name just to complain about CentOS. Yeah, it's the hatters that are the weird ones here.
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carlwgeorge
2y ago
If you're running cutting edge datacenter hardware, CentOS is a better fit now than it ever has been before. It will be the first to get support for new hardware within a major version, ahead of RHEL and all it's derivatives. It
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carlwgeorge
2y ago
It's the same major version, so it's extremely compatible. Plus if you run into something that doesn't work the same, you just discovered what's going to break for your workload on your RHEL system when the next minor v
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carlwgeorge
2y ago
People that actually care about the distro being sustainable are quite happy with the changes. Sorry you don't get it.
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carlwgeorge
2y ago
To call it "completely different" is false. They are built differently, but the end result is still 90-95% the same software versions (because it has to be as the major version of RHEL). In fact, the way it is built differently
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carlwgeorge
2y ago
For testing environments Red Hat will literally give them free RHEL. Problem solved.
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carlwgeorge
2y ago
Red Hat pays more people to work on open source than any other company I'm aware of. I am one of these people. I challenge you to find a single open source project included in a Red Hat product that doesn't contain contributions
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carlwgeorge
4y ago
Rocky and Alma are vulnerable to these CVEs too, as is RHEL. As a matter of fact, CentOS Stream 9 already has the fix to one of the CVEs. The rebuilds have to wait for it to show up in RHEL before they can rebuild it.
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carlwgeorge
4y ago
Absolutely agree, but one small point of clarification. One of the referenced CVEs (CVE-2023-1249) is rated low. The other two (CVE-2023-0590 and CVE-2023-1252) are rated moderate.
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carlwgeorge
4y ago
CVE-2023-0590 is already patched in C9, meaning the fix will likely will be shipped in RHEL 9.2. The other CVEs will probably get fixed as well (in CentOS first!), but when the RHEL maintainers are ready to, not based on some arbitrary dea
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carlwgeorge
4y ago
> RockyLinux is by the guy who did CentOS, and seeks to follow it's principles. Not quite. Back in 2003, when folks were first coming up with the idea of creating a distro that matched RHEL as closely as possible, Greg Kurtzer (the
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4y ago
While it's true that a good number of RHEL users don't use EPEL due to the lack of vendor escalation, there are many that do use it. In fact, they tell Red Hat that specific EPEL packages being available in the next version of EP
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