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by c3o 8y ago
This would absolutely apply to sites like HN or Reddit. Of course sites outsite EU jurisdiction aren't required to follow EU law, but may eventually find themselves ordered blocked by European ISPs if they don't.
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by c3o 8y ago
In the Commission proposal: "‘press publication’ means a fixation of a collection of literary works of a journalistic nature, which may also comprise other works or subject-matter and constitutes an individual item within a periodical
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by c3o 8y ago
The German law was targeted only at news aggregators. The legal text of the proposed EU version has no such limitation. As for clear (ahem) statements who this is actually aimed at -- here's Commissioner Oettinger, who was responsible
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by c3o 8y ago
You're exactly right: The big publishers lobbying for this aren't particularly scared of that outcome. They'd prefer to just receive millions from FB & Google, but if those platforms get out of the news sector entirely, t
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by c3o 8y ago
It's true: Publishers' business model is under threat, and some politicians pushing for this law are doing to so out of a genuine interest in fixing that. But actually, only a few very big publishers have lobbied for this, claimin
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by c3o 8y ago
The back story of the law may shed some light. First, it's no secret that the intent is to prop up the business model of struggling publishers by getting internet platforms to pay them for spreading (links to/tiny snippets of) the
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by c3o 8y ago
That's too optimistic. Let's dive into how EU law is made: First, the Commission (~government) proposes a law. They proposed this "extra copyright for news sites" that covers even tiniest snippets of news content and thu
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by c3o 8y ago
This particular new right would apply only to "publishers of press publications and news agencies" (to quote one of the recent drafts), which is why I added "in journalism" to the title to clarify [edit: but mods removed
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EU copyright proposal could undermine the use of Creative Commons licenses(creativecommons.org)
266 points by c3o 8y ago|130 comments
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by c3o 9y ago
Of course there is EU law on copyright, and it's currently undergoing highly contentious reform. The Commission is pushing for an extra "copyright" for news sites, designed to get Google and Facebook to pay EU publishers for
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by c3o 9y ago
At least in the EU, whether the source is cited/linked or not doesn't make any legal difference: If there's no specific exception to copyright that allows what you're doing, you can't copy something, period. And I&#
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by c3o 9y ago
I don't think that's true in the US – data/information isn't copyrightable, only original creative/intellectual works. A collection of data is still no original work. "Analysis based on algorithms" doesn&#
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EU copyright plans threaten startups: SoundCloud “wouldn't exist today”(juliareda.eu)
1 points by c3o 9y ago|0 comments
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by c3o 10y ago
I don't think though that othering policitians as "them" and identifying "the people" as an "us" helps us handle the complexity of social and political discourse either...
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by c3o 10y ago
The brevity of Twitter is not at fault. The whole purpose of their account there seems to be to editorialize the leaks. It's clearly more than just an announcement channel of new releases for people "to come to their own conclusio
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by c3o 10y ago
It's just a new buzzword, not a new concern. https://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=%22fake%20news%22,pr...
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by c3o 10y ago
While there's no sign the emails published by WikiLeaks were doctored and it's concerning that the Clinton campaign made such a baseless claim, it's similarly concerning to me that WikiLeaks itself created/spread false i
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by c3o 10y ago
For context: The proposed extra copyright for news sites that the Digital Commissioner is defending here seeks to make any web service that reuses even tiniest snippets from news articles pay for licenses for that content: * Aggregators lik
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by c3o 10y ago
Unfortunately negotiations of rights are on a country by country basis. Copyright is not unified nor properly harmonized across the EU (...yet?). To show copyrighted content to all of Europe you need licenses for 28 territories. This might
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by c3o 10y ago
I read that since your uplink is via the African continent, geolocation by IP often assumes you are there, rather than in an EU member state. Is that true, and could you share some experiences of being blocked (maybe even from French conten
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by c3o 10y ago
Ah no, I was arguing that "this would destroy our licensing/localization business" arguments are overblown. It would get rid of discrimination and barriers to the single market and also generate some extra cross-border income
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by c3o 10y ago
I think you're overestimating this. German-speakers, for example, are proficient in English above the EU average but culturally used to watching exclusively dubbed content (widely available because their market is big enough to make it
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by c3o 10y ago
Can you go into detail how we could improve https://endgeoblocking.eu/#todo ? I'll expand, at the risk of indulging in jargon: 1. Pass EU law that applies the country of origin principle as seen in the Cable and Satell
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by c3o 10y ago
True, but it is important to clarify that nobody right now is proposing to force companies to ship to other EU member states if they don't want to -- making the elimination of website blocking and the obligation to accept e.g. all EU
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by c3o 10y ago
US content is already pretty widely available. Currently, the Danish minority in Germany can watch the 80%-non-EU-made content in the German Netflix repertoire just fine -- but they are blocked from watching the Danish public broadcasters&#
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by c3o 10y ago
Europe's startup lobby AlliedForStartups supports the demand to end geoblocking. It is in fact the business practice of geoblocking and the legal framework of 28 different copyright territories & laws that: * Most serves the big pl
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by c3o 10y ago
Argument #1 has been made well by several sibling comments: I would argue that the TV license fee is not payment for access to BBC content, but a funding mechanism to enable the creation of high-quality public value content which, once su
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by c3o 10y ago
Rightholders usually don't allow services to let you pay for it if you're from another country. At least implicitly, their estimation is that accepting your money would damage their ability to exclusively license content 28 time
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by c3o 11y ago
Nope
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by c3o 11y ago
The territoriality of copyright (and movie industry business models) prevents them from offering the same selection for anything but their self-produced content: Rights need to be cleared separately for every country, and global licenses ar

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