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Jonathan Haidt details quite a few reasons why treating a student as a customer creates bad incentives and poor outcomes (just agreeing with you on the student-first point)
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I have no problem with the professor being flexible if he so chooses. I think the difference is I don’t levy an expectation that he is. I also don’t think he’s unreasonable for expecting people to be on time in a professional setting.
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I’m all for empathy, tolerance, and flexibility (to a reasonable degree). I also don’t think it’s reasonable to expect a professor to act on an assumption of illness when the person actually experiencing the symptoms does not hold that assu
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1y ago
First, go read the HN guidelines and understand why your post should be reframed. > how would you even know you had a condition and werent just a lazy ass? If you are not able to know, how on Earth do you expect the professor to know
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You seem to expect the professor to give you a reasonable accommodation for an affliction you didn’t even realize you had. If you want to hold him accountable for his (unfair?) rules, you need to first hold yourself accountable for getting
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> And he would give negative points on assignments. I remember reading (maybe from Nate Silver) of a professor who would use this technique to teach about uncertainty. You could weigh your overall grade with a proclamation about how cer
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> If someone doesn't have a vision for how they will accomplish what is asked of them, that's an opportunity for mentorship. I agree with your overall sentiment, but there’s another dynamic which doesn’t always lend itself wel
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1y ago
I prefer positive people but can deal with complainers if they’re actively looking to make thinking better. The problem is when malcontents only bitch and rarely do anything about it. That creates a toxic environment.
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Is this because our concept of human dignity/moral worth is predicated on what we “do”? Perhaps we can move away from the idea that our identity is tied to our works, and just have moral worth rooted in our being. Maybe having a human
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I was asking for more elaborating because the larger context goes beyond Aquinas. At the very least, it seems like cherry picking, especially considering other Popes explicitly use the “god-of-the-gaps” term when they refute the very idea.
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Panpsychism?
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> A lot of Catholic theology regarding the soul is driven by god-of-the-gaps style reasoning. Can you elaborate on how you arrived at this conclusion? There are multiple Popes that have rejected “god-of-the-gaps” explanations instead in
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1y ago
Just curious, but if it really was up to full self driving, why don't you think Tesla would have it certified as such? Being first to market as a true self driving vehicle would be a huge business win.
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There’s an argument that treating students as “customers” has led to all kinds of bad outcomes. One example is it creates an incentive to invest in all kinds of fancy infrastructure (fancy halls/dorms and even lazy rivers) because that
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I’m not moving the goalposts. Your words were that employers have “complete autonomy”. That’s obviously not the case, and those are pretty large swaths of professions to pretend like they are edge cases. And FWIW, if you read up on engineer
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You realize employers are sometimes regulated by who they can hire, right? A nurse often must be licensed. An engineer who stamps designs (ie one who isn’t under an exemption) has to be licensed. One of the major steps in that process is ge
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Nobody ever claimed the best fix is going after the proximate cause and not touching the root cause. That’s a narrative you contrived. I’m in favor of fixing both (which is how systemic improvements ought to work).
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1y ago
High barriers to entry are a feature of monopolies. Saying I could start my own railroad by simply buying up billions of dollars of land and investing billions more in equipment isn’t a compelling argument against the idea of a monopoly.
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There are accreditation bodies. So I don’t think your self-proclaimed engineering degree is going to help you get a job or a professional engineering license like one from an ABET accredited school.
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I brought up that I think the root problem is employers in a different comment, so I’m not missing that point.[1] The distinction is that I don’t think it’s a dichotomous problem. While colleges may not be the root problem, they can still b
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I agree with you (and upvoted) but consider this: why don’t fancy schools offer the same credentials for MOOCs if the information and assessment is on-par? I believe it is because they recognize the value of the credential and guard it clos
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> The other aspect of college you ignore is, it is a way to build a network prior to entering the workforce. I don’t know how generalizable this is. I remember reading a few studies trying to assess if Ivy League education was really mo
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This attitude is part of a more general cultural shift. Back in the 1960s, the majority of students said the primary motivation for going to college was to develop a philosophy of life, and a minority said the main goal was to be very finan
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Academia clearly lost their monopoly on information. Since their last moat is a monopoly on credentials, I expect them to defend it intensely. We could make it less meaningful if employers weren’t so keen on using credentials as their own g
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That’s a real distinction, but auto-generated code has special complications in safety critical code review as well. It’s also not relegated to ML/AI, just that adds yet another complication to good verification and validation.
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You don’t think the black box nature of much of AI has any impact on its impact in safety critical applications? Just look at the diverse and haphazard way AI has been used in autonomous driving. I would argue it’s a misplacement of the “mo
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> What change do you want to see here? Licensing, liability, and enforceable standards for safety critical code that interfaces with the public would be a good start.
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> certification process for structural/mechanical/etc. engineers that doesn't (and maybe can't?) exist within software engineering NCEES has a PE license related to controls software. The difficulty is most engineeri
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But surely that doesn’t preclude you from describing how you live your own?
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I was simply asking you to put a finer framework on how individuals should decide. Like I said multiple times, IMO it comes down to what is needed to get the job done, but I’m open to other thoughts. Saying it’s up to the individual isn’t r
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