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bumblebird
17y ago
That is categorically NOT verbosity. "public static void" has zero chance of containing errors. If you make a typo, it won't compile. It's not code, it's just "stuff". It doesn't translate to code. It doesn't "do" anything. If you really
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bumblebird
17y ago
Do you consider boilerplate to be verbosity? Because I don't. Verbosity is a bad thing, because it can cause bugs etc. But that's not what Java is. "private static void" is just boilerplate. It's stuff you type to get what you want, but it
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bumblebird
17y ago
Agree to disagree. Nothing in the language forces verboseness for the sake of verboseness.
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bumblebird
17y ago
I bought my son a netbook with XP on it. Brand new. Got it connected to wifi, "You have 40 updates". Massive updates, and it needed about 10 reboots to get through all 40 updates. Windows makes me so sad :(
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bumblebird
17y ago
You're probably right. Maybe I'll take a break from commenting on HN. I find the recent trends in the industry to be extremely depressing.
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bumblebird
17y ago
My original point was that "These guys are some of the best real-time web programmers in the world." is pretty silly. For one, 'real-time web' isn't hard, and secondly, there are people who have been doing it for years. I hate this trend of
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bumblebird
17y ago
I have no idea. My point though is: 1. "Real-time" is nothing new 2. There are people who have been working in 'real time' web apps for years
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bumblebird
17y ago
Of course, not taking anything away from them - most people around here are 'some of the best'. But real-time/comet/etc isn't hard.
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17y ago
>> "These guys are some of the best real-time web programmers in the world." WHAT? Come on. Do you not think other programmers do real-time web things, and have been for years? sigh
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bumblebird
17y ago
Given enough money, I would be excited by drying paint. I'd take it all with a pinch of salt personally.
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bumblebird
17y ago
The technology isn't hard. I know 'real time' is ridiculously over hyped now, but it's not rocket science. I'd expect quite a few etherpad clones to popup.
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bumblebird
17y ago
Personally the best case I can see for wave is that some of the features get absorbed into GMail. I can't see it succeeding on its own. (I just tried it out for the first time). Horrible bloated slow UI, hideous scrollbars, and pretty under
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bumblebird
17y ago
Times are tough :/
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bumblebird
17y ago
To be fair, did Etherpad have many users outside HN users? I loved it, but was it widely used?
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bumblebird
17y ago
You can (as we see) knock up a bare bones copy reasonably easily. The expertise is already out there. I'd say quite a lot of people are working on realtime collaborative comet stuff, and have been for quite a while now. The hard bit is gett
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bumblebird
17y ago
>> "combination of Operational Transforms on a federated XMPP layer with a web interface." This is why I hate XMPP. Over-engineered to the point of absurdity.
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bumblebird
17y ago
I'd say you can tell if the startup has been around for a year or 2. If so, they're probably going to stay around for a while.
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bumblebird
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I don't think they're the norm. Several startups are in it for the long haul rather than selling out+shutting down.
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bumblebird
17y ago
It's certainly an effective way to get people to link/come to Techcrunch.
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bumblebird
17y ago
Who cares? really. Lets not give Techcrunch so much attention for some vaporware.
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bumblebird
17y ago
What is 'wave the framework'? We've had XMPP for 10 years. And it still hasn't really taken off. Frameworks are pretty useless unless you have a killer app built on it.
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bumblebird
17y ago
Sorry for the edit, I decided I don't know enough about why Google would buy it to comment. I would think they have a good amount of talent/tech already working on wave. Perhaps more a 'buy to kill potential competitor'? Still sad to see Et
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17y ago
They're shutting down etherpad. They can't have wanted it that much, surely :/ Maybe they just wanted the employees back, or wanted to kill potential competitors.
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bumblebird
17y ago
Congrats to the team, but it's a shame Etherpad didn't survive on its own IMHO. I thought premium accounts etc were coming?
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17y ago
>> "It doesn't help that my stream is populated by my friends' constant romps on Farmville or Mafia Wars" So surely that shows your friends are using it a lot :/ Personally, I find facebook far more usable than twitter - upload imag
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bumblebird
17y ago
Allowing anyone access to your email account, even temporarily, seems like the problem here. I just wouldn't do it. Ever.
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bumblebird
17y ago
It's quite funny. Search for bing on bing, and you can see how ridiculously incompetent they are: "Bing - Search. Explore. Decide. ... Pardon the interruption. We ask that you view the characters in the following picture and enter them in t
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bumblebird
17y ago
>> Bing is not doing as much business as Google Understatement of the century.
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bumblebird
17y ago
I'm sick of the radio ads already. "Bing! The NEW search engine". Not a mention that it's a rebrand of a crappy microsoft search.
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17y ago
This is silly. There are thousands of websites that make money. The difference is, they don't go on and on and on about it. The unique part is 37Signals seems to concentrate mainly on PR. They're not the biggest or best, they just shout the
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