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>> "These guys are some of the best real-time web programmers in the world." WHAT? Come on. Do you not think other programmers do real-time web things, and hav

>> "These guys are some of the best real-time web programmers in the world." WHAT? Come on. Do you not think other programmers do real-time web things, and have been for years? sigh

daleharvey 17y ago
just because others have been doing it doesnt mean they arent some of the best, etherpad ranks quite a bit above most other real time web stuff.
- bumblebird 17y ago
  Of course, not taking anything away from them - most people around here are 'some of the best'. But real-time/comet/etc isn't hard.
  - sofal 17y ago
    Would you say that building Etherpad isn't hard? Saying that real-time/comet/AJAX/[technology name] isn't hard is meaningless. I can easily say, for example, that "programming in C" isn't hard. I just don't see what your point is.
    - bumblebird 17y ago
      My original point was that "These guys are some of the best real-time web programmers in the world." is pretty silly. For one, 'real-time web' isn't hard, and secondly, there are people who have been doing it for years. I hate this trend of coming up with fantastic buzz words and making people believe they're something new/hard/fantastic.
      - daleharvey 17y ago
        1. you are pretending that all real time applications are equally hard, they arent, etherpad has a level of complexity beyond most things people do. 2. because people have been doing it for a long time means it isnt hard? there isnt any way to read that that makes any sense, brain surgeons have been around a while, its still pretty hard. like most people who complain about buzzwords you are actually putting more emphasis on the 'buzzwords' than the actual point.
        bumblebird 17y ago
        You're probably right. Maybe I'll take a break from commenting on HN. I find the recent trends in the industry to be extremely depressing.
jackowayed 17y ago
Would Google have paid low eight figures in a talent acquisition if they weren't? In particular, they probably are the best people to join the Wave team because not only have they been doing real-time, they've been doing a real-time app that is very similar to wave, since they're both essentially documents (though wave is a little more like a series of sometimes-nested documents, but it's all the basically the same).
- bumblebird 17y ago
  I have no idea. My point though is: 1. "Real-time" is nothing new 2. There are people who have been working in 'real time' web apps for years

>> "These guys are some of the best real-time web programmers in the world." WHAT? Come on. Do you not think other programmers do real-time web things, and have been for years? sigh

daleharvey 17y ago

just because others have been doing it doesnt mean they arent some of the best, etherpad ranks quite a bit above most other real time web stuff.

bumblebird 17y ago
Of course, not taking anything away from them - most people around here are 'some of the best'. But real-time/comet/etc isn't hard.
- sofal 17y ago
  Would you say that building Etherpad isn't hard? Saying that real-time/comet/AJAX/[technology name] isn't hard is meaningless. I can easily say, for example, that "programming in C" isn't hard. I just don't see what your point is.
  - bumblebird 17y ago
    My original point was that "These guys are some of the best real-time web programmers in the world." is pretty silly. For one, 'real-time web' isn't hard, and secondly, there are people who have been doing it for years. I hate this trend of coming up with fantastic buzz words and making people believe they're something new/hard/fantastic.
    - daleharvey 17y ago
      1. you are pretending that all real time applications are equally hard, they arent, etherpad has a level of complexity beyond most things people do. 2. because people have been doing it for a long time means it isnt hard? there isnt any way to read that that makes any sense, brain surgeons have been around a while, its still pretty hard. like most people who complain about buzzwords you are actually putting more emphasis on the 'buzzwords' than the actual point.
      - bumblebird 17y ago
        You're probably right. Maybe I'll take a break from commenting on HN. I find the recent trends in the industry to be extremely depressing.

jackowayed 17y ago

Would Google have paid low eight figures in a talent acquisition if they weren't? In particular, they probably are the best people to join the Wave team because not only have they been doing real-time, they've been doing a real-time app that is very similar to wave, since they're both essentially documents (though wave is a little more like a series of sometimes-nested documents, but it's all the basically the same).

bumblebird 17y ago
I have no idea. My point though is: 1. "Real-time" is nothing new 2. There are people who have been working in 'real time' web apps for years