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bryanh
13y ago
You beat me by a minute!
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13y ago
> Dropbox was a “feature, not a product,” Jobs said. In other words, they didn’t really have a business. [0] Not that I disagree about Snapchat's possibly ephemeral value, but dismissing it is a bit premature. I doubt many would say
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I think it is a question of efficiency, right? If some external middleware can provide more value in some columns than it offsets in other columns, it is usually a good bet. We're all just raising the bar for abstraction: first it was
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We thought this one was particularly novel, so I disagree (though as a Zapier co-founder I am a bit biased!). We rarely submit API additions to HN unless it seems particularly suited for hackers, others in the community might though...
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Happy to answer any questions about this, it is particularly cool because you really can run a SaaS service with "no servers" and still get to use your pick of providers (Sendgrid, Mailchimp, Twilio, etc.). It seems like a lot of
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Zapier co-founder here, we started it during the weekend and just kept it alive! ;-) It is helpful to work with people you know and are comfortable with (because if you do keep it alive, you'll basically be married to them). Plus, it h
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This assumes pricing is the primary thing that consumers chose by. Which isn't true. Also, as storage costs decrease (and they will, of course), owning your own datacenter isn't as big of an advantage in the long term.
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We saw them having issues for about ~20 minutes via https://zapier.com/status/ .
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Wonderful, thank you for releasing this! I hope you guys continue to release good bits for handling email, it really is a bear. The ongoing joke in Zapier is a small library that I made called simple_imap. Well, as the story goes, it quickl
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13y ago
Zapier co-founder here, we've heard this question a lot and TBH, it is a fairly difficult thing to do. In addition to lots of users using Zapier to dump important data into Google Spreadsheets for safe keeping, I've heard of users
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13y ago
Sure! Basically, reuse a lot of signing functions that you might find in a library (IE: Django's https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/signing/ ), don't roll your own. Then, keep track of
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At Zapier, we jumped through a lot of extra hoops to make sure that emails are categorized and you can easily opt-out with a single click (no matter if you are logged in or not). Some emails cannot be opted out of (the only two right now ar
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13y ago
Who cares if they are the top 5% if they don't jive with the way you do things. That just causes extra stress and trouble later on, so it is better for both sides. Besides, the top 5% of what? Raw coding ability? I bet you the people t
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No mention of Hulu here or in the article? Hulu has done several of these cheap shows and none of them seem to have caught on in any meaningful way, whereas Netflix's obvious "swing-for-the-fences" attempts seem to have every
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Very cool! Any chance to open source it? I've been running HN alerts via Zapier (my startup) + a webhook polling trigger with a URL like http://api.thriftdb.com/api.hnsearch.com/items/_search?&q=yo... (wh
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Let's hope they don't got the route of Android, which is perhaps the most successful consumerization of Linux to date, wherein they allow hardware vendors bog it down with crapware...
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13y ago
> Being proud of how well you did at fundraising is like being proud of your college grades. What a great line.
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Thanks! We'll try to work that into the next round of edits!
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This is a very good summary.
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That is the case! It's actually a hard concept to get across in words (we've found). If you have or see an example that really resonates with you, do let us know (and we're open to pull requests https://github.com&
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There is no middle intermediary, its just two servers. For example, Facebook & your app. Instead of polling `facebook.com/api/posts` every 2/5/15/60 minutes, you'd set up a subscription for Facebook to ping
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This is a great point, is there a better way to do local dev with webhooks? I always used localtunnel which is great it not perfect.
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Websockets are still your best bet here.
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That is a good point. What kills us the most is the latency on network IO when polling.
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The server itself will just POST a payload to a defined URL. I'm not wildly familiar with the internals of that app or Rails in general, otherwise I'd give more detail!
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Bingo!
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Hey Steve! > See the confusion in this thread. If it were a link to a spec, nobody would be confused. We definitely had a little confusion in the thread, I think that was mostly because we put too much marketing on the homepage for this
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Good point. For us (Zapier), we just waste a lot of time and resources polling. We talked to some of the SaaS services we integrate with and it is the same on their side as well. That is our motivation.
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We are pushing some copy updates to the homepage, most of the technical details were in docs. TL;DR coming to the homepage soon, but the gist is: REST Hooks itself is not a specification, it is a collection of patterns that treat
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Great call, we're adding it to the homepage now!
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