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by asabjorn 8y ago
More than what the outrage over the censorship of other viewpoints are? To me what they are doing seems more like an act of faith in social justice that is most likely really bad for their business
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I see abundant racism and sexism on patreon of the kind popular of the American left.
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Yes, this is showing the problematic aspects of large centralized corporate control on our capability to continue engaging in enlightenment thinking and a healthy democracy.
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We are here talking about some hypothetical negative publicity. The outrage about what Sargon said is rather contrived and I suspect most of it is an act.
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See the transcript of Matts conversation with Patreon [1]. They said this was entirely their decision, and they did it because they didn't like Sargons brand whatever that means. [1] https://docs.google.com/document&#x2
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Read the transcript [1] of the call between Patreon and Matt, and Patreon said it was entirely their decision. Another rather scummy thing is to act ideologically while obscuring your reasons, reasons you are perfectly capable of expressing
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Their CEO Jack Conte a year ago said this exact thing was not covered by their TOS [1]. Patron also admitted that their current TOS text reasonably is worded to only cover what you do on platform. This was not on platform. Regardless, it is
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by asabjorn 8y ago
Joe Rohan covered this well [1]. What Sargon is supposedly being banned for according to patreon is using the n-word against Nazis that had been attacking him for a while. Patreon said context didn’t matter and that they didn’t like his “br
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In the call with Matt they said that what they did here conform with their corporate values and goals, as they don’t want to allow creators they politically disagree with for branding reasons. If therefore doesn’t matter if this was true in
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More likely this is what happens when you create a trust and safety department run by ideologues that censor according to some elusive concept of “hate speech”. Who defines hate? Ideologues should at least not
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Patreon has been on a spree to ban people that think the wrong way. Matt Christiansen had a call [1] with Patreon to discuss their banning of Sargon of Akkad. Sargon was notified of the banning by his patrons, not Patreon, and had no recour
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My point is that science isn't clear cut, and by definition a minority dissenting opinion is what furthers science. Sometimes that dissent violates a sacred principle, such as Galileo and many others did. The concept of what is sacred
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I think you are missing my claim that the severity of the response seem to be due to him violating a sacred value and that this was a large part of the justification of the response, regardless of the merit of any other claim they could hav
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I think if we were all the same and we could use a few group identities to understand individuals you would be right. However, maybe there is a great deal of variety within us that is not expressed because of the measures applied in the nam
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Makes sense. Yes, only a small subset of people in general have a good understanding of statistics. - People on the radical left without a good understanding of statistics are often outraged by how they misunderstand how statistical should
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I think the problem with tptacek's explanation is that it does not address the larger context of how certain topics have become sacred in academia [5], and how breaking or criticising these sacred ideas leads to an outsized reaction. D
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You make some good points, but I would like to add caveats on the usefulness to think in terms of groups when judging an individual and make the point that group inferences has severe limitations when making decisions about an individual. T
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When I did research and at grad school a large percentage of my peers were either Asian American or Asian, with a large percentage being immigrants from China. As a researcher in the US you spend too much time writing grants and now equity
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How do you then explain that the gender gap increase the more equal countries are [1, 2]? This doesn't mean that one gender is more capable than the other, women actually do as well on average in the sciences as men, but it seems to in
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As a former researcher I am not surprised to see another nation capitalizing on the counter-productive politicization of US science. I used to be a researcher and writing proposals suddenly started taking up much more time around 2010 to 20
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I would like to learn why we have such different viewpoints. Do you see emotional labor as a concept as something else than a grievance? What do you think is a good definition of the term? It is reasonable that we have different definitions
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The concept of emotional labor is not much different. Emotional labor in itself is a description of a carefully selected subset of actions we do when we mutually care for people we are close with and that most people gain meaning through do
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If you are basing this on the PSID report they are only counting household chores typically done by women, so their numbers can't be trusted [1] and are heavily politicised by people seeking to further a particular ideology through usi
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That is only because technology is build upon science, which captures the belief in a rational God of Christianity that it sprung out of and doesn't capture the ethical aspects. It is a somewhat problematic aspect that anything non-eth
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It is hard to make assumptions. However, I would hope that there is a correlation between support structures we can and have put in place with a lower incidence rate.
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Yes, correct. Many of my friends have experienced the same. The genders share the fact that we are flawed human beings.
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Thanks. Still trying to figure out how the terms were defined in the survey to gain an understanding of what the experiences were. Do you know how the survey defined sexual overtures, sexual badgering, sexual coercion, quid-pro-quo and unwa
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I agree that we can define a lower bound of reports for the questions asked, and the terms as defined by the survey. The lower bounds are: At least 4/384=1% reported unwanted sexual contact, 15/384=3.9% quid pro quo and 19/38
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Thanks. It sucked for quite a while, but I’ve forgiven her at this point and I am trying to channel the energy to understand how these things come about so that I can help us all become part of the solution.
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Ok, but it is at least a lower bound on reports. At least 4/384=1% reported unwanted sexual contact, 15/384=3.9% quid pro quo and 19/384=4.9% sexual badgering. The real number would be higher if all responded and asked. Were

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