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anoncowherd
13y ago
>> I don't think they understand that without individual freedoms reigning supreme, we'll have monopolies, lack of innovation, taxes, etc. Agreed. >> Oh, and don't forget tracking/passport/entry visas be
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See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6920011 for some clarification. In case it helps, consider the following two ways of thinking about land as property. 1) Any land covered by something valuable that you "produce
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What's wrong with property as a means of production? Look, I'm not saying that stolen property is legitimate, even in the case of land. But that's a tricky issue, and perhaps some kind of "reset" is required (and ar
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>> You're not actually giving an intellectual argument, for the most part. You're just... "erm"... asserting the opposite of what I said in a hand-wavy manner. OK, here's what you said earlier: >>> I
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It's everyone's own personal choice what they want to learn, if anything. Everyone's responsible for their choices, and marketable skills can be acquired through experience and practice, even without any particular schooling.
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13y ago
Rights are an idea.
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Private schools, that teach exactly what the market wants them to teach. This would not include Patriotic indoctrination though, for example. Besides, how many percent of everything you're taught at school do you actually find interes
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>> No, property is defined by force. Or, it's defined by property rights? But hey, why not make things more complicated than they actually need to be?
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>> Well, the simple fact is, empirical studies of minimum wages just don't show their having a macroeconomic effect on employment that overwhelms other effects You don't get it. There's no need for "empirical studi
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Hm. Yeah, I guess that's a good point. The idea of property can be thought of as "obligations between people", but it's not the same as the idea of the social contract. For starters, it's between individual people,
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>> I think the government should use retaliatory force, never initiatory force Therein lies the problem. Governments are based on initiatory force - extortion , to be accurate. We all pay taxes because we know we'll be forci
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That may be, but people are not property. Or, well.. should not be.
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A "decentralized collective society" seems contradictory. I can't tell what you mean.
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So you disregard my examples, declare that I need to "prove" things, and then proceed to tell me that you don't . Have a good day, Sir.
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Property can only be defended (by force) after someone tries to take it from you. The aggressor is immoral.
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>> The countervailing argument to "voluntary exchange" is that many trades are highly unequal If an exchange is genuinely voluntary, it leaves both parties better off by definition. You value whatever you're giving up l
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What does?
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Feel free to refute my minimum wage example for starters. Here's another: 1) you want to help the poor 2) you confiscate wealth from other people, and give it to the poor 3) you have just removed money from the economy an
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No matter how much we want everyone to live, we can't try and ensure it through coercion . Besides, coercion only works for evil. You can't achieve good through coercion. Whenever you try, it has the opposite effect. Take minim
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You're overlooking a couple of important things here: 1) Public education is shit anyway, and mostly just meant to indoctrinate us into the Cult of Statism. 2) Private schools would do a vastly better job,
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>> How do we convince individualists that some services need to be established by the collective itself and not an offshoot (syndicate/business)? We don't, because you're talking about imposing some "services&quo
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Feel free to argue against the points presented in the video. Capitalism is such a messed-up term these days. To me it means free, voluntary exchanges and agreements/contracts between people, but most people have been propagandized to
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>> There's a large body of literature that attempts to justify centralization of power Of course there is. We've lived under centralized power for hundreds or thousands of years, after all. Why would The Powers That Be sud
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Meet Noam Chomsky - Academic Gatekeeper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEDf7OkRCxk&list=PLN6xa7kD9dZ...
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Your profile looks like you're an objectivist. But as others pointed out, you can't just dismiss anarchism off-hand. As an objectivist, you're against coercion, but in favour of centralized power? Is that correct? If so, don&
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I thought it might be about getting the fuck out of the US while the getting is good, but then I saw the domain.. :p
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The surveillance's purpose is not to catch criminals or terrorists, as evidenced by the recent confiscation of some NZ citizen's electronics at the airport. He had attended a meeting on mass surveillance, and is therefore consider
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>> all foam mattresses deform to some degree So do spring mattresses, by the way, and aren't they the most common type?
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>> I always wonder what they're actually looking for Potential political prisoners - what else? They're only ever interested in anything that could constitute a threat to their power, however mild. It's also about condi
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>> What can I even do if they take my electronics? "Write to your representatives!!" .. nah, I'm kidding. You can't do shit about it. We live in an increasingly totalitarian world, as the article shows. It's f
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