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6y ago
> If you're looking in from the outside, It's weird, then, that the person that wrote the article that you and I are both commenting on has written a well regarded book using Haskell and their assertion is exactly the same as m
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Every time Haskell is discussed, lots of valid critiques show up as to why it's not more successful, and yet every single time, without fail, the conversation devolves heavily into "People aren't smart enough." The perso
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Is this not the exact definition of a cowpath argument? "We didn't make it to be this way so, regardless of what people are actually using it for, we will continue to assume we're right and the users are wrong"? If HTML
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6y ago
A quick google search shows a pretty typical layered corporate structure.
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/r/programming, /r/haskell, this site, interactions with real people at Haskell meetups and normal programming meetups.
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smart adjective, smart·er, smart·est. - having or showing quick intelligence or ready mental capability They said "smart", I said "intelligence".
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Purely anecdotally, I've found haskell-centric spaces to be pretty hostile, which definitely did not help getting me interested.
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6y ago
> drive, intellectual curiosity and desire for a challenge literally none of these is related to intelligence. And even if they did, to assert that not wanting to learn Haskell has anything to do with "drive, intellectual curiosity
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And the layers and layers and layers between Netflix' CEO and non executives probably mean he has almost no idea what he's talking about wrt general employees.
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I've posted this before, but first bell was at 7:18, bus was at 6:30. I had it luckier in that I lived ~1 mile from school, but lived in an area where you couldn't safely walk. There were students that lived ~15 miles from school
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Our lunch was split up into 3 to accommodate the amount of students our school had. If you unluckily got put into Phase 1, lunch was at 10:48.
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Came to post. Teenagers aren't the totally irrational monsters television/media makes them out to me, necessarily. As one could guess, they're very much a reflection of their parents' investment in their emotional health
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_Exactly_. Tech companies regularly exist purely based off of illegal business models (they call them _Disruptions_). So, yes, we agree, if there are repercussions for a company regularly breaking the law, then engineers can and should refu
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6y ago
I can't edit my comment but replace Majority with Minority and that's what I meant.
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I agree with you, but my point is that you're the dramatic majority. Their revenue proves it. So, in 2020, even though their reviews are all garbage and spam, does it matter to them? I again ask, now, based on their data, what benefit
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6y ago
I think that might've been true a decade ago. Now I think it's Best Buy and Walmart that are attempting to gain credibility against Amazon, no?
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> I think we are pretending here that these developers have only one option: "Sure, boss! Whatever you say, boss!" No, I am suggesting that there is significantly more grey area between your moral highground and reality. > I
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What benefit does Amazon get from spotting and weeding out fake reviews?
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> They'd have no qualms stripping me of my license to practice engineering for knowingly approving an unsafe design Presumably there would be repercussions at the government level if a company repeatedly demanded engineers do thing
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> My rule of thumb is that if you're dealing with someone 10+ years older than you, it's generally good to assume they can read you better than you can read them. This is giving a lot of people undue credit, is the problem.
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I didn’t think we were talking about life experience, I thought we were talking about the nebulous term “discipline.” And you’re switching back and forth between “young people”, “children” and now “21 year olds.” I’m trying to understand wh
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You’re welcome to disagree about calling them software engineers, but I’m not seeing how that is relevant or constructive to the whole point of this post and comment chain?
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Right but we’re not talking about children. We’re talking about recently hired software engineers? And if you’re saying “pretty much every adult”, doesn’t that include those engineers?
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Can I ask why you think that young people are inherently less disciplined?
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I guess my point is not that engineers should be exempt from being held accountable for their work, but that engineers are frequently asked to do things incorrectly/poorly/negligently and then assessed by their employers for their
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> An engineer should be willing to tell his boss "No, because I would go to jail" I guess we just fundamentally don't agree on how power dynamics effect these types of scenarios.
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You're not wrong, but I disagree a lot with your metaphor. Measuring stress and anxiety is important for mental health. The solutions are not necessarily binary, but the measurement is important.
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> Most teachers are not good, so self-study is essential An excellent cowpath right? "The teachers are bad, so rather than fixing the teachers we make the students teach themselves afterhours."
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If the applications of mathematics are not made clear, it is quite literally memorizing random formulas. Which is exactly the scenario you'd find in most public high schools in america. Which, that sentiment applies directly to history
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> Homework should be abolished As a child, and now as an adult, I've always thought homework was an insane proposition. If you had a job where you showed up in person for 7 (realistically more than 7) hours a day, but then assigned
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