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adrianthedev
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Thank you for trying it. I mean it! That's all I want :) > Generators for resources should be smarter and look a models attributes and type_for_attribute and add all the fields for me. Things like enums should be easier than needed
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Yeah, my bad there. Jumpstart ships with Administrate, not rails admin. I'm humbled to have built something that could ship with Jumpstart. Thank you for the kind words!
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Yes, they do intersect in some areas as you can build CRUD UIs with both. Avo takes it further to give it a nicely designed UI, all the "missing" features like extending the interface, adding custom content, supporting all associa
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Ok. Got it! It's mostly about the phrasing. Pushed changes now. "It’s better for the customer and for jumpstart." It's true.
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I haven't used motor admin extensively so I couldn't speak about it's features very precise. It seems to me that motor admin is like a giving a power tool to your end-users. It's empowering the citizen-developer. They ca
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Yes, sure. They are tools that work together nicely. I use both on our infrastructure websites ( https://avohq.io ). Jumpstart is an amazing starter app that gives you accounts, billing, notifications, and others, and with Avo you
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I'd say that the classic direct competition are Active Admin, Administrate, rails admin. They are the OG admin panel builders in the Rails world. They focus a lot on building just classic CRUD admin panels. I focused on making Avo a wh
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Thanks for the kind words! Avo is built using Hotwire (Turbo and StimulusJS) so no fancy framework (React, vue, svelte) under the hood. We love Stimulus and goes very well with Rails development. That beign said, Avo supports adding your ow
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I wouldn't know. I'm not that connected with the Python ecosystem. Maybe someone else can shed light. I only know about Django Admin.
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Yeah, for sure! This post, or Avo's existence is not about bashing other tools. Each project has it's own requirements and budget. Thank you for your message!
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> "Developing with plain Rails and a minimum of gems is linearly difficult while developing with a set of DSL/generators like Avo can lead to a complexity spike from 1 to 11 in no time. And the worst thing — at a random stage o
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Haha. You're trying to stir sh*t up.
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Yes brother! I remember the days when I was building "an internal admin for the agency". Something to have for all apps and customers. We'd build it for customer 1, and then for customer 2 we'd add some features and chan
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Thank you for the kind analysis! I see you understand the product very well from the start! Yes, it's built with the knowledge of past projects you mentioned above and is deisgned to be very easily "escaped from". I know that
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Do you think my branding is similar to avo.app?
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I would say that the Community version (free) covers most of what Active Admin does. The search is paid with Avo (and included in AA). The Pro users are those who need to build upon Avo. They need custom content (fields, resource tools, cus
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Oh, I see what you mean. What kind of "gigs" they get. "Starters" or "continuers" (maintenance). Gotcha! Personally I started a lot of projects. Probably more than 50%. And the money were good, but not as good
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Well... Avo's pricing is exacty like Jumpstart's (except the $750 for unlimited). So pay $250, get Avo (or Jumpstart) with a year of updates. When you stop paying, you keep what you have until that point and no more updates. Isn&#
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Oh darn. I forgot about the demo site to beef up the hosting for this post. I'll do that this week. I'll probably move it to a separate instance. Yes, it's hosted in the US. Thank you for that and unploy. I'll have a loo
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When one says "admin panel", the general belief is that it's an obscure space where only the core team comes to check on some stats, or update some records. Avo is more about building a real app with it. It's meant to be
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Thank you Ricky! I appreciate the kind words.
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I mentioned this before, that I spoke with Chris Oliver, and started work on bringing Avo inside Jumpstart rails as an alternative to rails admin.
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Yes you can. Our site uses Jumpstart (lovely app) and we use Avo everyday with it. Avo was designed to be unopinionated. I know that might sound off. Avo has a DSL, it must be opinionated, and it is with that DSL, but with the rest, we'
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but I see what you mean and I think you're not wrong.
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I mostly agree with you, but that's on more "traditional" SaaS products. When it's a service. This is more of a product. There are developers and agencies that buy Avo, build something for a customer and then transfer th
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Ok. I see that. I pushed an update to fix it. It's $249/year afterwards.
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Yak shaving. It's "my mission in life" to avoid that. I like pushing things out fast and early. "Listen to your customers and push out the features they need, not the features you think they need."
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One of our biggest supporters Equipe Technique are building a Shopify like platform ontop of Avo. It's not their admin, but the actual user interface, so go for it! Dream big!
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I don't want to start anything here :P
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"draft an MVP in html/js with something like Firestore as a backend"... so much here. It sounds easy, but is it? I remember the days when I would get stuck on a webpacker config issue instead of working on the real meat of my
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