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VulgarExigency
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VulgarExigency
2mo ago
You are missing a 0 to the left of the 2 on Deepseek's number
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2mo ago
> the Chinese system is probably the closest to that - but then the CCP exists :( . a large player that can tip the scales. but for the rest of the businesses - it's dog eat dog - the better ones that survive are suited to serve the
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2mo ago
There's no doubt in my mind that they set up the conditions for their models to escape the sandboxes. "haha oops our incredibly powerful models escaped we need 1 trillion more dollars and really this is yet another reason why no o
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VulgarExigency
3mo ago
> The Chinese government has deep pockets. They can probably run at a loss for a long time and don't have to worry about it. It's not as cheap as Deepseek's own API offering, but there are multiple providers on Openrouter
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3mo ago
They’re doing the meme. “China is building solar panels/cleaning the environment/building EVs/planting forests/commodifying caviar/releasing high quality AI models for free, But At What Cost?”
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3mo ago
https://archive.is/20260731054236/https://www.nytimes.com/20...
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3mo ago
The agents write much better commit messages than me, at least. They also write better PR descriptions. At work we have a PR authoring skill and we’ve included an instruction for it to write a reviewer guide that tells the most logical way
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VulgarExigency
3mo ago
But why would "we" want to attack them anyway?
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VulgarExigency
3mo ago
And what is their nefarious plan after we get "addicted to cheap shit"?
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3mo ago
They may reverse course in the future, but the current directive from the CPC is that Chinese AI labs should be open sourcing their models. https://www.businessinsider.com/xi-jinping-open-source-ai-us...
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3mo ago
I would bet that Deepseek API pricing is still more cost effective per token than the subscriptions. With the increase in quality Deepseek Flash just got (in my personal testing so far, it seems to have improved a lot at following instructi
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3mo ago
> I draw the opposite conclusion here. In monoliths, someone else might want the code to stay in the codebase. I don't want to ask everyone about it. Everyone's responsibility is no-one's responsibility, and the code stays
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3mo ago
That sounds like government intervention to me.
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3mo ago
It's not a failure, that's just how capitalism works.
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VulgarExigency
3mo ago
Seems to be working out better than leaving it up to the market
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3mo ago
> Every historical technology wave ends the same way: the mainframe becomes the PC, the timeshare becomes the laptop, the cloud becomes the edge. The only people who ever argue otherwise are the people selling mainframes. Perhaps AI serv
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3mo ago
What the hell are Radicle and Tangled
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3mo ago
Fair use? Anthropic does not own the copyright to the output of their LLMs. Fair use does not enter into it at all.
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3mo ago
They should sue Anthropic for this distillation attack
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3mo ago
But distillation is not theft. They are paying for the usage of the API. It is also not copyright infringement, as AI companies do not hold the copyright for the output of their models.
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3mo ago
For those of us with feebler minds than you or him, the name is just full of qualifiers that make no sense.
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3mo ago
Relevant Slavoj Zizek talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj4cxK-nOTw
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3mo ago
The same people who say there is a Uyghur genocide are the ones who deny there is a Palestinian genocide. Guess which one there's video evidence of (a horrific, endless amount of evidence).
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3mo ago
Why? Should we be held hostage to the whims of these companies and all the investors in the throes of AI psychosis, and let them do whatever the fuck they want, because if we don't then the economy will crash?
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3mo ago
The model that is most optimized around token cost is, in fact, Chinese. DeepSeek is astoundingly cheap by default, but if you use it from Reasonix (the harness optimized around its cache), it becomes even cheaper.
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3mo ago
In my opinion, for the vast majority of use cases, DeepSeek is still the most cost-effective model by a mile. $10 feels like it lasts forever.
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3mo ago
I typed it. I'm afraid my biological neural network has been trained by reading too many chains-of-thought. I might have added an extra 0 by accident, I didn't double check, but that just makes it more AI-like, really.
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3mo ago
Do we have any concrete numbers of how many of their users are subscription vs enterprise, though? Because enterprise users are paying API prices (or at least my employers are)
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3mo ago
Make them less money? By automating use of their product, that costs money to use?
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3mo ago
The user is asking me to calculate how much money they should charge their customer. The values they've given me are 0.45, 1.67, and 2.50. This is 2.50 + 1.67 + 0.45 = 4.62, but it could be any other number. Perhaps we should be conca
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