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9y ago
I'm certain a system could be devised to allow enough pasture-raised cattle, chickens and pigs to be raised in happy, healthy conditions until slaughtered for food. It would take more resources, but it would be worth it. It might also
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> Animals like pigs (or rather, their very very recent wild ancestors) have needs and behaviours that simply aren't useful to agriculture, and they can't possibly life fulfilling lives (not to mention that they should also be l
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9y ago
Is there a provable way to know that other animals don't experience pain to begin with?
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Can it be proven that they don't feel pain?
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9y ago
Not true ~ these qualities are part of life, but are not the whole of life. Food is also nourishing, existence is also pleasurable, life is also about happiness and well-being.
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9y ago
This is why it is far more ethical to eat animals who have been raised in conditions that allow them to thrive happily and wholesomely. Factory farms are more-or-less a result of corporate capitalism and the greed for money.
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9y ago
> The suffering you cause is proportional to how much meat you eat. Oh really? Sounds like ideology more than fact. Are you really insinuating that plants don't feel pain? Because they certainly do. Look up Cleve Backster's res
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9y ago
And neither do we absolutely need to eat plants to live a long, healthy life. Case in point? The traditional Eskimo diet that consisted majorly of fats, offal and meat. They lived long healthy lives only shortened due to the extreme coldnes
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9y ago
This sums up the whole debate debate in a nutshell.
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To a colour-blind person who cannot perceive a difference between green and red, there is no distinction. There is no difference between identifying the colour "red" and the qualia of it, because we must directly know the latter t
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9y ago
Is a nervous system explicitly necessary to feel physical sensations? Why should we presume that a nervous system is necessary? They may have pain receptors that we haven't identified yet. Plants have consciousness... but it is quite d
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9y ago
> Negative stimulus reaction and pain are different things. How are they different? Pain is a negative stimulus response that allows us to know whether something is causing damage to our body. > We know we feel pain. We can guess that
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9y ago
Page Table Isolation has been backported to 4.14.12, so no need to test with the rc.
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This is only true with Ryzen CPUs that were manufactured before week 25. ThreadRipper wasn't affected, nor was EPYC.