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by SamPatt 1y ago
Author here - it's a fair criticism, and I point it out in the article. However, I kept it in for a few reasons. I'm trying to show the model's full capabilities for image location generally, not just playing geoguessr specif
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by SamPatt 1y ago
I'm the author - I tried to be as upfront as possible about my skill level in the post. The human supremacy line is just a joke, there are already models specifically trained for Geoguessr which are already beating the best players in
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by SamPatt 1y ago
I have had so many ideas related to this. Particularly around automation. Because the way the community arrives at meta knowledge and its geographical distribution is very informal. There are quite a few false metas out there, or the common
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by SamPatt 1y ago
I do everything from Obsidian now. Anki was very much outside my main flow, and the plugin I linked above works so well for me that I've never looked back. I did write a tool to convert Anki decks to my own format. I haven’t used it mu
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O3 Beats a Master-Level GeoGuessr Player–Even with Fake EXIF Data(sampatt.com)
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by SamPatt 1y ago
Housing shortages aren't a result of some nefarious plot to make the super rich richer. It's more complex than that. We need to build more housing, and there are various reasons why that isn't happening. Many of them are well
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by SamPatt 1y ago
Ban lying in politics? What would be left?
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by SamPatt 1y ago
This is an interesting question. I watch the output with fascination, mostly because of the sheer breadth of knowledge. But thus far I can't think of anything that is categorically different from what humans do, it's just got an i
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by SamPatt 1y ago
I used Anki for years, not for Geoguessr, but I've been a fan of spaced repetition for a long time. It worked well and has a great community, but I found the process for creating cards was outside my main note taking flow, and when I b
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by SamPatt 1y ago
Exactly - I've been posting a few comments with examples doing this. I'm confused how so many people have such different outcomes. People seem to have fixated on the fact that the models use EXIF data if it's included, but it
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by SamPatt 1y ago
>Show it a picture of a trailer park somewhere in Kansas (exclude any signs with the trailer park name and location) and I’ll bet the model only manages to guess the state correctly. This isn't really a criticism though. The photo n
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by SamPatt 1y ago
Yes, I'm aware. I've been using screenshots only to avoid that. Check my last few comments for examples without EXIF data if you're interested to see o3's capabilities.
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by SamPatt 1y ago
I'm surprised to hear that. I keep running tests and the results are incredible, not only in the US. For example, here's a screenshot from a random location I found in Google Street View in Jordan: https://cdn.jsdelivr.
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by SamPatt 1y ago
I dropped into Google Street View and tried to recreate your location, how did I do? https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/sampatt/media@main/posts/2025-04... Here's the model's response: https:/&#
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by SamPatt 1y ago
Lol it's very easy to give the models what they need to cheat. For my test I used screenshots to ensure no metadata. I mentioned this in another comment but I was a part of an AI safety fellowship last year where we created a benchmark
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by SamPatt 1y ago
It's a valid question. My guess is the actual objection is the artificial feeling of the Google specific information. It cannot possibly be useful in any other context to know what the Street View car in Bermuda looked like when they d
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by SamPatt 1y ago
Oh hey Tyler, nice to see you on HN :) Yeah it's an impressive result.
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by SamPatt 1y ago
I hear you, a lot of people feel the same way. You can always just play NMPZ if you want to limit the meta. I still enjoy it because of the competitive aspect - you both have access to the same information, who put in the effort to remember
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by SamPatt 1y ago
As a further test, I dropped the street view marker on a random point in the US, near Wichita, Kansas, here's the image: https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/sampatt/media@main/posts/2025-04... I fed it o3,
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by SamPatt 1y ago
Google updates Street View fairly frequently, but most of the updates are in developed nations and they're simply updating coverage with the same camera quality and don't change the meta. However every once in a while you'll
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by SamPatt 1y ago
I couldn't agree more. It's very impressive. I'm just countering the claim that it might be cheating. Of course, sometimes it might be, but knowing what I know now, it's completely possible.
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by SamPatt 1y ago
Spot on. Nigeria and Tunisia have follow cars. Senegal, Montenegro and Albania have large rifts in the sky where the panorama stitching software did a poor job. Some parts of Russia had recent forest fires and are very smokey. One road in T
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by SamPatt 1y ago
Thanks. I also love watching the pros play. >One thing I'm curious about - in high level play, how much of the meta involves knowing characteristics about the photography/equipment/etc. that Google used when they shot it?
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by SamPatt 1y ago
Sure, I'll write something up later. I'll give you two samples now. One reason I love the Obsidian + Markdown + Spaced Repetition plugin combo is how simple it is to make a card. This is all it takes: https://cdn.jsdeli
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by SamPatt 1y ago
No, I took screenshots to ensure it. Your skepticism is warranted though - I was a part of an AI safety fellowship last year and our project was creating a benchmark for how good AI models are at geolocation from images. [This is where my G
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by SamPatt 1y ago
I made it myself. I use Obsidian and the Spaced Repetition plugin, which I highly recommend if you want a super simple markdown format for flashcards and use Obsidian: https://www.stephenmwangi.com/obsidian-spaced-repetition
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by SamPatt 1y ago
I play competitive Geoguessr at a fairly high level, and I wanted to test this out to see how it compares. It's astonishingly good. It will use information it knows about you to arrive at the answer - it gave me the exact trailhead of
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by SamPatt 1y ago
They aren't fake. I'm a Master I level Geoguessr (the penultimate competitive ranking) and what the pros can do is very real. I looked at the image in the post before seeing the answer and would have guessed near San Francisco. It
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by SamPatt 1y ago
Are there tools out there to help build these scrolling sites? Works well on my phone and that isn't always true on DDG browser.
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by SamPatt 1y ago
Are you trying to do it all solo? It's very hard to grind for many years on your own. If you want to grow your business, and you're already feeling a lack of motivation, that seems destined to fail if you try it alone. Whatever pa

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