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My wife is Iranian, so I’m connected with a large Iranian expat community, and all my in-laws are in Tehran. The best recommendation I can give you is to connect with your local Iranian community I’m not sure where you live, but every major
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I will respond to your comment honestly. I have literally talked about this topic with actual Iranians. The Iranians I’ve spoken to feel that the ends will justify the means. They believe that people will die either way, protesters are dyin
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No, she’s not a monarchist, and she’s actually very uncomfortable with people referring to “prince” Reza Pahlavi. I think she understands that every movement needs a leader, so she’s ok with Mr. Pahlavi leading that, i.e. a constitutional a
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Thanks, I hadn’t seen that article before. Interesting read. My take is that GAMAAN likely overstates the opposition, but all surveys on Iran are imperfect, not just GAMAAN. I know Pew has done surveys in Iran, but didn’t directly ask if pe
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I would agree that there is some bias amongst expats, I think that’s a fair point. I think saying diaspora “never represent” their home countries is an exaggeration. All the Iranians in the US I know are first generation immigrants who have
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We have limited data on this. There have been surveys, but survey data isn’t always very accurate. Here was one survey that showed 81% disapproval of the Islamic Republic: https://gamaan.org/2023/02/04/protest
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This aligns with conversations I’ve had with Iranians. They really do believe that the ends justify the means here if they can destroy the regime.
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My wife is Iranian and I know many Iranian expats, and all my in-laws are in Iran. This attack on the school comes up all the time as a talking point. And I will tell you exactly how most Iranians react: they find it weird that you’ll talk
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Looks like an interesting article, but it’s paywalled. Would love to read it. Do you have a different link or can you summarize it? From my conversations with Iranians, they know regime change is a long shot. But what are they to do? Anti-r
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I’m not sure what your point is. Are you suggesting that anti-regime Iranians are a minority? I’m not sure if we have good statistics on this. So everyone may have a different perspective. All I can say is this: I’m married to an Iranian wo
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My impression is that people don’t take Trump‘s words literally. Trump often exaggerates and plays word games. If you take every statement from Trump literally you’re going to be constantly triggered. But even so, I think the response you’l
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From my conversations, Iranians don’t really care if Israel/US are specifically there to “free Iran”. Iranians are pragmatic, they understand that US/Israel have their own motives. As long as the regime is being destroyed, that’s
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I will tell you exactly what my Iranian wife said when I asked her about people congregating on the bridges after Trump said he’ll bomb them: she said (paraphrasing) “bomb them, they’re all regime supporters”. The country is basically on th
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It will unify countries against Iran and maybe they’ll actually participate to open the strait like Trump asked them to
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That doesn’t align with the perspective of actual Iranians I know. There are news reports of Iranian expats and opponents within Iranian who are disappointed with the ceasefire. They wanted trump to go further and destroy the regime. That a
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That’s not what Iranians expect or are asking for. Every Iranian I’ve spoken to is thankful that Khamenei is now dead and there is at least a chance of change. They don’t expect Trump to fix their country for them. They want someone to help
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Your casual usage of the word “genocide” doesn’t apply to Iran. Iranians are dramatically in favor of removing the theocratic Islamic regime. Iranian expats the world over celebrated Khamenei’s death. My Iranian mother-in-law living in Tehr
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I’ll defer to every Iranian I know, the millions of Iranians expats, and millions of Iranians within Iran, who are all cheering us on and celebrating Khamenei’s death.
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Every Iranian I know has the same sentiment right now. Feeling very conflicted in that 1) their country is being attacked, and 2) thankful that the oppressive regime is being destroyed. Cautiously optimistic about the future.
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Ironically, Iranians right now are saying the same thing about the Shah. They’re saying that, while the Shah wasn’t perfect, things were better back then than they are now.
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Then the word doesn’t mean anything. If something causes harm, I’m allowed to dislike it. “Phobia” is an irrational fear. For the Iranian people, it’s perfectly rational.
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I didn’t really know much about Iran as a typical American until I married an Iranian woman. And then I met her family and her friends and I came to love Persian people. They’re some of the kindest people I’ve ever met. What hasn’t come up
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What a weird comment. I’ve had my account for six years and live in the USA. You can go look at my activity if you want.
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Nice to meet you! Funny enough, I am married in an Iranian woman, and that is how I learned about Iranian history and the beautiful people of Iran. Hacker News is unfortunately very out of touch with actual Iranian people who are largely ch
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It’s been a lifelong dream of millions of Iranian expats
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Very good analysis. I think most of the world doesn’t quite understand how bad the currency crisis is right now in Iran It was one of the primary triggers for the protests. People are very upset about the economy and willing to protest and
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You have to pick your battles and be pragmatic. Changing the Iranian regime would have a much broader impact than changing the Saudi Arabian one.
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They’re not nuking Tehran, they’re dropping targeted bombs on government/military sites. Get in touch with your local Iranian community. You’d be surprised how much they’re cheering the bombing on. You might be surprised that people in
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Venezuela didn’t take many boots. Maybe we can decapitate the Iranian regime in the same way.
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God willing, the Iranian people rise up and overthrow the regime. Use this opportunity because it may not come again soon. A weakened regime that stays in power would be a terrible outcome to all this. Get the mullahs out!
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