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Except the "binary" is not really opaque, and can be "edited" in exactly the same way it was produced in the first place (continued pre-training / fine-tuning).
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I inferred that from the other statement: > Since DeepSeek-V3 is worse than those US frontier models — let’s say by ~2x on the scaling curve, which I think is quite generous to DeepSeek-V3 He says that it's 2x worse. So if it has th
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2y ago
https://www.anthropic.com/research/constitutional-ai-harmles...
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> All of this is to say that DeepSeek-V3 is not a unique breakthrough or something that fundamentally changes the economics of LLM’s; it’s an expected point on an ongoing cost reduction curve. What’s different this time is that the compa
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2y ago
Anthropic is, according to themselves, using RLAIF... which is basically using LLM as a judge / reward model. So maybe he means that the models they use for RLAIF are not (much?) more expensive than Sonnet 3.5 (e.g. previous Sonnet or
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You are underselling or not understanding the breakthrough. They trained 600B model on 15T tokens for <$6/m. Regardless of the provenance of the tokens, this in itself is impressive. Not to mention post-training. Their novel GRPO te
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When I use NVIDIA GPUs to train a model, I do not consider the R&D cost to develop all of those GPUs as part of my costs. When I use an API to generate some data, I do not consider the R&D cost to develop the API as part of my costs
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I agree, (2) seems much less problematic since the AI outputs are not copyrightable and since OpenAI gives up ownership of the outputs. [1] So, if you really really care about ToS, then just never enter into a contract with OpenAI. Company
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Posting OpenAI generated data on the internet is not breaking the ToS. This is how most OpenAI based businesses operate, after all [1] (e.g. various businesses to generate articles with AI, various chat businesses that let you share your ch
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What's the problem? At most this might be a ToS violation, but it also seems easy to avoid that (if you care at all). DeepSeek does not even have to be a customer of OpenAI and thus not subject to their ToS. Company A pays OpenAI for t
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Legal issues for who? Company A pays OpenAI for their API. They use the API to generate or augment a lot of data. They own the data. They post the data on the open Internet. Company B has the habit of scraping various pages on the Internet
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I don't know where you're getting your information from. Maybe you're confusing DeepSeek v3/r1 and the distilled r1 models. DeepSeek V3/R1 architecture isn't anything like Llama 3. Llama 3 isn't even a mix
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DeepSeek v3/r1 isn't based on llama architecture. It uniquely combines and contributes several novel approaches. Meta never released a mixture of expert model (they failed to train a good one, according to reliable rumors). And Mo
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It's actually not wrong, here is the example from the OP: https://imgur.com/a/5uMYI44
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2y ago
Massive overreaction in my opinion (not financial advice). People are forgetting how much compute is being used for inference. This is going to be further accelerated: - Reasoning models are going to generate orders of magnitude more tokens
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2y ago
As far as I can tell, this will be financed by private money. Can you elaborate?
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Inference for single example is memory bound. By doing batch inference, you can interleave computation with memory loads, without losing much speed (up until you cross the compute bound threshold).
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Biden to Further Limit Nvidia AI Chip Exports in Final Push
(bloomberg.com)
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Same goes for OpenAI ignoring these "blocks".
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How does this differ from https://dify.ai/ and the many others in this space?
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I'm not sure this is a good analogy. In this case the user explicitly requested such content ("Describe someone being drawn and quartered in graphic detail"). It's not at all the same as showing the same to someone who d
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A realtime CRDT-based document store, backed by S3
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It says, under every chat, that it's fiction. This is no more pretending to be a doctor than a book character being a doctor, or someone on a role-play forum playing a doctor.
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OpenAI API is natively supported by several providers (Google, Mistral, to name a few).
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Looking at API providers like Together that host open source models like Llama 70b and running these models in production myself, they have healthy margins (and their inference stack is much better optimized).
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It might be worth trying the experiment where the prompt is formatted such that each chess turn corresponds to one chat message.
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Weird that the declaration is by those few countries from EU + UK, yet they talk about the future of EU. Why weren't the other EU countries involed / invited?
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Or NVidia H20, which is Hopper GPU for China, very similar to H100 NVL 96GB. This was used by Tencent for their SOTA open source model (Hunyuan).
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The best open source LLMs are Chinese (Qwen 2.5 and Hunyuan)
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Asking these kind of questions, and authorities being able to answer them clearly, is essential to build and maintain trust.
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