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DuskStar
6y ago
Vaccine or extermination. But extermination means no international travel, and a stronger lockdown. Which looks like it worked for NZ, but won't for the US.
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DuskStar
6y ago
As far as I'm aware, there's three ways that a lockdown can save lives - one is to reduce deaths caused by an overwhelmed health care system, another is to delay things until a paradigm shift occurs (for instance, a vaccine or mir
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DuskStar
6y ago
> You’re essentially pondering if it should be okay for a billionaire industrialist to willingly sacrifice the lives of between 1-50 people. I was unaware that Tesla workers were slaves. Unless they aren't - in which case they would
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DuskStar
6y ago
> won't permit him to expose ten thousand people to an infectious disease. How low of an IFR would it take before you accepted that exposure? Would incidentally exposing them to the common cold be ok? It's not the infections th
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DuskStar
6y ago
... because they've been too aggressive, or too passive? I'm still in the "there shouldn't be a lockdown for healthy people under 50" camp (since IFR is so low for that demographic), but I could see people being mad
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DuskStar
6y ago
> We have talked about “pull off the bandaid”- to have 200M people get the disease means we’re going to lose somewhere between 1-2M people (just in the US). IF a few things are true: 1. The population being infected matches the demograph
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DuskStar
6y ago
It may be wrong to say this is a disease of the over-70s, but it's not wrong to say that it's a killer of over-70s and the sick. Most critical workers are not over 70, and most do not have long-term health issues. So yes, there
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DuskStar
6y ago
> With that mindset, you’ll have a few million dead people (who are not contributing to the economy) by Christmas. Guess what? Those few million? They won't be contributing to the economy either way , even without the coronavirus -
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DuskStar
6y ago
And I grew up in Michigan, and went to school in Michigan. What's your point? That I can't say "there are conservative people out there" because I spent a few years in LA? For that matter, if you grew up in rural Michiga
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DuskStar
6y ago
I notice a distinct lack of "construction workers", "farmers", "truck drivers" and the like in your list. Also generally regarded as "the masses", and also generally against those social democratic p
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DuskStar
6y ago
Even more so if you're in a low-risk demographic - for instance, "healthy person under 50".
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DuskStar
6y ago
Oh, certainly! I meant that the worst case under-30 IFR - the one corresponding with something like 5% overall IFR - is around 0.1%. Something like 0.01% is easily within the bounds of possibility from what I understand. (For reference,
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DuskStar
6y ago
I'm pretty sure the worst-case scenario for a healthy person under 30 is around 0.1% IFR. Other estimates are better than that.
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DuskStar
6y ago
"the right response is to ignore the masses and follow my preferred social policies, because the only reason someone would disagree is if they've been taken in by corporate propaganda" That's the only way I can really pa
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DuskStar
6y ago
Because they pay for those unemployment budgets, perhaps? You may not agree with that perspective, but it is held by quite a few people.
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DuskStar
6y ago
Well, here's something you're going to love to hear, then: "If we do this right and come out of it this summer, we're still going to have to do it again this fall"
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DuskStar
6y ago
It is quite possible for lockdown measures to be more destructive than the disease they seek to prevent. Taken to an extreme, forbidding all human contact to protect against the common cold would be an example of such. And it's definit
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DuskStar
6y ago
There's a few airliners that would disagree with you there. KAL007, for starters. Not to mention legitimate targets like Gary Powers.
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DuskStar
6y ago
Ah, but it's not bad when we're censoring the wrong opinions, don't you see? /s if it wasn't obvious.
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DuskStar
6y ago
> The dogs will feel no pain from being put to sleep. > Nobody can, will, or wants to even suggest that the children be put to sleep. We will let the children suffer horrible pain before we ever even consider suggesting such a thing.
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DuskStar
6y ago
> In a time where economists have a lot of soul searching to do This might be true, but I don't know that there's been an obviously wrong set of recommendations yet during the coronavirus crisis. Do you have an example? > th
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DuskStar
6y ago
Unfortunately, I'm relatively sure that field corn isn't harvested the same way as sweet corn, and so there might not be a way to collect those cobs before they dry.
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DuskStar
6y ago
"I'm not an academic and have real world experience, therefore I'm right" I don't think it works like that.
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DuskStar
6y ago
> It's not an opinion. I'm an engineer who also trained as an economist, and I know the answers to these questions. It's just math. Considering how many economists seem to disagree on what the proper response here is, I h
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DuskStar
7y ago
> Isn't this whole process of debate and individual responsibility basically irrevocably tainted in the age of mass misinformation? Wasn't there an article here yesterday about the San Francisco anti-mask league [0] from 1918?
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DuskStar
7y ago
Saudi Arabia is trying to build tourism? From where?
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DuskStar
7y ago
IIRC Saudi Arabia is a massive welfare state with significantly subsidized food, power, water and more - all paid for by oil. People might be more willing to revolt because of that going away than they would have had it never been a thing i
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DuskStar
7y ago
Buildkite + preemptible GCP instances has worked great for where I'm working right now!
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DuskStar
7y ago
But the grocery store workers are there all the time, and interacting with a wide variety of people. Sure, the chance per person is lower - but overall? And the spread on a work crew is limited - there's only 6 people there. But that g
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DuskStar
7y ago
> so long as they are being obeyed anyway. And that's MY point. How long will people be willing to obey the current restrictions? How long would they be willing to obey even stricter ones, or more lenient ones? I don't think ob
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