CydeWeys

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by CydeWeys 4y ago
I think the execs got peer-pressured into it. Other companies were doing it, and they ignored the fact that other companies were in much more dire straits. As a result we now have all the psychic costs of the layoff, but few of the benefit
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
Well my origin comment was saying that it doesn't happen at Google. I can't speak for other employers.
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
Based on this comment it seems like you have a highly distorted view of what it's actually like. You're arguing against a strawman. It's not like that at all. Possibly it's like that for a high level PM, but for a SWE,
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
That's just a reflection of the fact that it's much easier to have a big impact if you direct an entire org to make it happen rather than trying to be a hero and doing it all individually.
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
Hopefully your spouse is earning a similar amount too!
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
Many people are not employed though (or are children). I wonder if this figure is for every single person. Or it could just be wrong.
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
You're just speculating and making this all up though. The vast, vast majority of people affected by the layoff didn't know anything was coming. Could be 100% of them.
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
Totally agreed. All the other protected statuses work both ways, as in, you can't discriminate against people who are pregnant/parents, but you also can't discriminate against those who are not (i.e. by expecting them to sh
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
From what I've seen these senior people with no reports at the moment (or those with org sizes too small) were hardest hit in the layoffs, simply because of the misfortune of bad timing.
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
It sounds like you're describing people getting a different job at a different company? That's not the same thing at all. When I joined Google I was "demoting" myself from TL/M equivalent to mere L4 SWE. The much hi
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
> It's supposed to be management's responsibility to pick projects that will be successful. That's simply not how it works at Google. Everyone has skin in the game. Who are you to say how it's "supposed" to
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
It's not "really exhausting", it's just doing your job?? Personally I enjoy more coming up with my own stuff and fighting to launch it than just following orders (my favorite career accomplishments are making .app and .d
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
They said median net income, i.e. post-tax.
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
Yes. Figs are basically the most likely, as you see here. The fruit can't even be produced without the help of a fig wasp, and they often end up dead inside it. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/fresh-fig
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
I think the upper middle managers were actually hit harder in this layoff than the higher level eng ICs.
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
> You promote people not for being lucky and on a successful project, At Google you are explicitly rewarded at L5 and up for picking the right project to work on. It's wisdom of the crowds. You pick what project you're working
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
That's basically in the job description for the highest levels though. They're expected to literally lead the industry in their field. If they're merely now a solid and productive programmer/uber tech lead then they don&
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
> They're each multi-millionaires, they're each fully capable of retirement today... Or, hell, many years ago, for that matter. That's the funny thing. I was talking to one of them who I know for a fact is very well off,
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
Ironically, you're the one treating stealthiness as a boolean value here: > there is definitely no guarantee that F-35 will keep it's stealth ability in the future. Of course as radar and computer systems improve it's like
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
I'm not forgetting it; it didn't happen, not as far as I'm aware. Voluntary separation was not a part of this layoff as far as anyone knows.
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
This is a killer rebuttal to insipid low-thought articles. I'm stealing it.
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
Getting rid of the cars certainly will. There's lots of streets in e.g. Manhattan that simply need to have the on-street parking removed, and some of them even need to have the car lanes removed entirely (the most obvious candidates a
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
This article kinda sucks and sounds like it was written by a complete NIMBY. I don't have the energy to do a proper full rebuttal, but I'll just respond to one representative dumb line from the article: > For one thing, dining
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
Sucks to be someone who was just about to turn 40 and was affected by this layoff, knowing they'd have had additional legal protections were they only a little bit older.
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
> Because most L9's at Google have created significant contributions to the industry, I see that you're using the past tense there. "But what have they done for me lately?" L9 isn't a sinecure. It is a very hi
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
I think they are FTEs for historical reasons. If they were to be spun up from scratch today as a new perk to be offered, I highly doubt that they would be anything other than contractors (like how the cafe staffs are run).
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
I saw some VPs and Directors let go as well. Frankly, the org chart still makes sense without them being present (all of their previous reports simply report now to who their manager used to be). Consider how deep the org chart has grown
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
> If you're laying off an entire division, sure, your comment applies. However, from anecdotal experience at Meta, the layoffs seemed entirely random that hit both ICs and Managers. People internally tried to reverse engineer the fo
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
There are also plenty of L2s on eng job ladders outside of SWE. The levels are kinda sorta roughly equivalent by pay across different roles, hence levels 1 and 2 don't exist in SWE because their pay is below the lowest any SWE would b
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by CydeWeys 4y ago
Any idea why the Page Up and Page Down buttons don't seem to be working on either of these presentation views? The experience is fundamentally broken on desktop. Having to scroll through a huge page (with a tiny scrollbar) is no fun

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