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I'm a little surprised by the negative reaction. You people don't derive pleasure from working... from the process of building things, from molding reality? I d

• enraged_camel 11y ago
  I felt the same way when I was in my early 20s, had recently graduated from college, was single and had few friends. My idea of a good Saturday was one in which I sat at a coffee shop by myself and continued working. A decade later, my perspective has widened and my priorities have shifted. I still derive a lot of pleasure from work (even though I wouldn't describe it as "molding reality"), but I also realize that work is ultimately a means to an end, which is to spend time with my friends and loved ones and/or develop my hobbies.
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  • cpach 11y ago
    Please don’t make personal attacks here on HN.
• yodsanklai 11y ago
  It's not contradictory at all. One can derive pleasure from working, and still enjoy their free time. The good thing about free time is that you can use it to build things if that's what you want. And don't forget that most people don't have the luxury of an enjoyable job.
  • tluyben2 11y ago
    That last point is debatable in the Western world but yes it holds globally.
• Daishiman 11y ago
  Sure, I derive pleasure from work. But I don't work for free, and I would rather be doing a lot of other things that are more enjoyable, but less profitable, than working.
• Cthulhu_ 11y ago
  Do you live to work, or do you work to live?
  • jqm 11y ago
    What's the difference? Work. Bees don't do it.
• vacri 11y ago
  Well, it's largely because you're trolling. It worked, too.
  • jqm 11y ago
    I don't think trolling. I'm just saying I like being busy. I don't want hour and half lunches at the cafe. I don't want 6 weeks a year off. I like working, I like making stuff and I like making money. I like resting too. I rest especially well when I'm tired from work. It's a good feeling.
    • vacri 11y ago
      "You guys are lazy. I like work... because I'm American" is a pretty garden-variety troll.
      • jqm 11y ago
        Where is the word lazy mentioned or even implied? I do like working. And this is a traditional characteristic of Americans. With all the America bashing that goes on (some admittedly deserved) this is a thing I'm particularly proud of about my country. I'm proud of what we have invented, what we have achieved in very short period of time. I'd like to be part of that tradition. Your trolling accusation is entirely unfounded.
        • vacri 11y ago
          "I didn't imply others were lazy, I'm just proud that America is different because we work hard"? Seriously?
          • jqm 11y ago
            One would have to really stretch to get the lazy implication. America is different. That's factual. America does (or did) have a culture of hard work and innovation. I'm proud of this and don't make any attempt to hide that. That says nothing about other people. I did take a moment to read the complaints in your profile and have some kind of idea that you might be susceptible to feeling abuse from public forums and have very rigid ideas of how people should behave in them. I encourage a bit more flexibility in your thinking. Again, not trolling. That accusation is way off base (and in fact, a trolling behavior itself). You really should apologize.