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It doesn't matter when the patent was granted - it matters when it was filed. Of course, in this case, it was filed in 2002. The patent is completely bunk. Co

It doesn't matter when the patent was granted - it matters when it was filed. Of course, in this case, it was filed in 2002. The patent is completely bunk. Considering, however, the eastern district of Texas - it'll probably make it through. That is, if JP Morgan Chase doesn't fight it.

ynniv 17y ago
Close, but not quite. FTP: This application is a continuation and claims the benefit of U.S. application Ser. No. 09/075,359, filed May 8, 1998 now abandoned, which is a continuation of U.S. application Ser. No. 08/324,443, filed Oct. 17, 1994 now U.S. Pat. No. 5,838,906, the disclosures of which are hereby incorporated by reference. The lawyers will only see one date, and that date is 1994. Also, don't forget that there is a 1 year bar on patentability, so it is plausible that the prosecution could claim invention as early as 1993.
axod 17y ago
People were doing this in the 90s though. Before XMLHttpRequest it was: var i = new Image(); i.src = "/something.cgi?SEND_TO_SERVER" Then when the image is loaded, check the dimensions of it to receive a small amount of data from the server... if (i.width==10) { // Server wants us to do X I remember using this exact code to write an updating scoreboard for a worm game I wrote in js, in 1999. No pageloads etc. AJAX! Software patents just need to die completely.
- budu3 17y ago
  I think hackernews used to use a similar method.
  - axod 17y ago
    Sure - It's obvious. Patenting anything like that is just ridiculous. It's like patenting the idea of having a pitched roof on top of a house. It's a shame some do see things like this as innovative unique ideas that need protecting. FWIW I don't think we help matters by constantly reinventing the same ideas with new buzzwords. "Real time web"? really.
- qeorge 17y ago
  That image trick is brilliant. I have never heard of that before.
  - lupin_sansei 17y ago
    another classic technique was to pass a cookie back with the image and you could then access a couple of Kb of data
- chrischen 17y ago
  I think implementation should be allowed to be patented, but vague ideas describing what you want to do, but haven't done are worthless. They only reason they are worth something is because the government is artificially giving them worth by covering millions of possible implementation with a couple of sentences. On the brightside, more abuse means more unrest. So hopefully we're getting closer to reform.
kordless 17y ago
Seriously, someone needs to go to Tyler and take these joke-of-a-judge's gavels away. Totally annoying.

ynniv 17y ago

Close, but not quite. FTP: This application is a continuation and claims the benefit of U.S. application Ser. No. 09/075,359, filed May 8, 1998 now abandoned, which is a continuation of U.S. application Ser. No. 08/324,443, filed Oct. 17, 1994 now U.S. Pat. No. 5,838,906, the disclosures of which are hereby incorporated by reference. The lawyers will only see one date, and that date is 1994. Also, don't forget that there is a 1 year bar on patentability, so it is plausible that the prosecution could claim invention as early as 1993.

axod 17y ago

People were doing this in the 90s though. Before XMLHttpRequest it was: var i = new Image(); i.src = "/something.cgi?SEND_TO_SERVER" Then when the image is loaded, check the dimensions of it to receive a small amount of data from the server... if (i.width==10) { // Server wants us to do X I remember using this exact code to write an updating scoreboard for a worm game I wrote in js, in 1999. No pageloads etc. AJAX! Software patents just need to die completely.

budu3 17y ago
I think hackernews used to use a similar method.
- axod 17y ago
  Sure - It's obvious. Patenting anything like that is just ridiculous. It's like patenting the idea of having a pitched roof on top of a house. It's a shame some do see things like this as innovative unique ideas that need protecting. FWIW I don't think we help matters by constantly reinventing the same ideas with new buzzwords. "Real time web"? really.
qeorge 17y ago
That image trick is brilliant. I have never heard of that before.
- lupin_sansei 17y ago
  another classic technique was to pass a cookie back with the image and you could then access a couple of Kb of data
chrischen 17y ago
I think implementation should be allowed to be patented, but vague ideas describing what you want to do, but haven't done are worthless. They only reason they are worth something is because the government is artificially giving them worth by covering millions of possible implementation with a couple of sentences. On the brightside, more abuse means more unrest. So hopefully we're getting closer to reform.

kordless 17y ago

Seriously, someone needs to go to Tyler and take these joke-of-a-judge's gavels away. Totally annoying.