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Sorry about that, was trying to correct the "They'll go out of business" or "They don't really mean unlimited" comments about our business. We definitely do no

Sorry about that, was trying to correct the "They'll go out of business" or "They don't really mean unlimited" comments about our business. We definitely do not support unlimited RAW uploads, and we do recompress videos for streaming (at insanely high quality, though!). Stay tuned on RAW. Additionally, we limit photos (JPEG, GIF, PNG) to 150MB or 210 Megapixels apiece, and videos to 20 minutes and 3GB. Those have continued to grow over time as additional devices demand them, and I expect that trend to continue. [1] http://help.smugmug.com/customer/portal/articles/93278-what-types-of-files-can-i-upload-to-smugmug- http://help.smugmug.com/customer/portal/articles/93278-what-...

e12e 11y ago
As you're on here - will a new alternative to Smugmug Vault surface again soon? As far as I can tell, smugmug doesn't support raw at all for new users at this time? So far the only real alternative I'm aware of is pics.io.
- onethumb 11y ago
  It's something I actively think about and we have a few ideas about, but would love to know what you'd like to see and what your pain points are. :)
  - e12e 11y ago
    Personally I need to store RAWs. I don't have any use for a DAM (Digital Asset Management) system that doesn't let me store RAWs (or at least import to DNG with most, if not 1:1, of the information intact). I'm mulling over implementing it myself, as a self-host solution. Probably aim for ingesting RAWs to DNGs, and have the possibility of losslessly doing some edit/transforms (store the operations outside the DNG files) -- along with export/view/cache as jpeg and jpeg 2000 for web browsing etc.
    - onethumb 11y ago
      Want a job? :)
      - e12e 11y ago
        Yes. Email in profile ;)
  - e12e 11y ago
    Somewhat related, I came across dpbestflow[1] again, just now -- and I see they've added some information about (archive) file formats since I stopped by last. I wasn't aware jpeg 2000 had a lossless mode (nor that it generally compressed better than other lossless formats). Nor was I aware a number of archive institutions have standardized their DAM/Archiving on lossless jpeg 2000. I suppose one would still need DNG/RAW if one want to keep the door open for being able to "re-develop from negative" on archived photos (jfr. archiving/keeping old negatives, which would be the equivalent for traditional photography). Anyway, the site[1] might be of interest for those that find this thread interesting. [1] http://www.dpbestflow.org/file-format/archive-file-formats http://www.dpbestflow.org/file-format/archive-file-formats
- onethumb 11y ago
  I should have mentioned that the reason we no longer offer SmugVault for RAW storage is that Amazon has deprecated AWS DevPay, the product we built SmugVault on, and will be shutting it down "soon". Which means we need to build something entirely new, which I'm happy to do, but we're currently in limbo and gathering feedback.

e12e 11y ago

As you're on here - will a new alternative to Smugmug Vault surface again soon? As far as I can tell, smugmug doesn't support raw at all for new users at this time? So far the only real alternative I'm aware of is pics.io.

onethumb 11y ago
It's something I actively think about and we have a few ideas about, but would love to know what you'd like to see and what your pain points are. :)
- e12e 11y ago
  Personally I need to store RAWs. I don't have any use for a DAM (Digital Asset Management) system that doesn't let me store RAWs (or at least import to DNG with most, if not 1:1, of the information intact). I'm mulling over implementing it myself, as a self-host solution. Probably aim for ingesting RAWs to DNGs, and have the possibility of losslessly doing some edit/transforms (store the operations outside the DNG files) -- along with export/view/cache as jpeg and jpeg 2000 for web browsing etc.
  - onethumb 11y ago
    Want a job? :)
    - e12e 11y ago
      Yes. Email in profile ;)
- e12e 11y ago
  Somewhat related, I came across dpbestflow[1] again, just now -- and I see they've added some information about (archive) file formats since I stopped by last. I wasn't aware jpeg 2000 had a lossless mode (nor that it generally compressed better than other lossless formats). Nor was I aware a number of archive institutions have standardized their DAM/Archiving on lossless jpeg 2000. I suppose one would still need DNG/RAW if one want to keep the door open for being able to "re-develop from negative" on archived photos (jfr. archiving/keeping old negatives, which would be the equivalent for traditional photography). Anyway, the site[1] might be of interest for those that find this thread interesting. [1] http://www.dpbestflow.org/file-format/archive-file-formats http://www.dpbestflow.org/file-format/archive-file-formats
onethumb 11y ago
I should have mentioned that the reason we no longer offer SmugVault for RAW storage is that Amazon has deprecated AWS DevPay, the product we built SmugVault on, and will be shutting it down "soon". Which means we need to build something entirely new, which I'm happy to do, but we're currently in limbo and gathering feedback.