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We are based in Bangkok :-)

by dynjo 11y ago

amichal 11y ago
I understand and I know it's just an estimating tool but are you saying I can hire your team to deliver a gold-plated does everything iOS app with geolocation, health and sensor inputs, a top-notice design, etc including the detailed functional requirements (we all know what clients think is a complete specification), tested and delivered in the app store for 1,576hrs of billable work at $56/h total cost to me including any overhead you may have (like your market street sf office)?
- nathan_f77 11y ago
  Sounds very reasonable to me. $56/h is above the market rate for Thailand, Eastern Europe, Russia, etc.
  - djb_hackernews 11y ago
    I think the point was you get what you pay for. $56/hr is probably above market rate in those locations for straight up development work, not the fully loaded costs of a project that size which will need to include requirements gathering, design, UX, testing, integration, etc outside of straight up development work.
- dynjo 11y ago
  Our hourly works out slightly more than this, but yes the economics work because of the geo-arbitrage. We are actually a 6 year old western company based in Bangkok. We have worked with many big name startups very successfully.
  - lords 11y ago
    Any names to mention checked your site and didn't see much.
- matwood 11y ago
  You have just described why so much offshoring moved back to the US. If you need something cookie cutter that has already been done, sure, but then why are you building something that's already been done? If you have all the infrastructure to take everything else out of the equation except the raw development, then it often still makes sense to have a developer or 2 full time to maintain the app and understand the business needs. I bet the offshore guys get a lot of work from all of the "I have an idea!" people though.
reustle 11y ago
Would love to grab coffee! (No contact info in your profile)
dawson 11y ago
Could you link here to a few apps which you have have built and designed at that price and within the timeframe?
- dynjo 11y ago
  Here is a recent one https://slimwiki.com https://slimwiki.com

We are based in Bangkok :-)

by dynjo 11y ago

We are based in Bangkok :-)

I understand and I know it's just an estimating tool but are you saying I can hire your team to deliver a gold-plated does everything iOS app with geolocation, health and sensor inputs, a top-notice design, etc including the detailed functional requirements (we all know what clients think is a complete specification), tested and delivered in the app store for 1,576hrs of billable work at $56/h total cost to me including any overhead you may have (like your market street sf office)?

nathan_f77 11y ago
Sounds very reasonable to me. $56/h is above the market rate for Thailand, Eastern Europe, Russia, etc.
- djb_hackernews 11y ago
  I think the point was you get what you pay for. $56/hr is probably above market rate in those locations for straight up development work, not the fully loaded costs of a project that size which will need to include requirements gathering, design, UX, testing, integration, etc outside of straight up development work.
dynjo 11y ago
Our hourly works out slightly more than this, but yes the economics work because of the geo-arbitrage. We are actually a 6 year old western company based in Bangkok. We have worked with many big name startups very successfully.
- lords 11y ago
  Any names to mention checked your site and didn't see much.
matwood 11y ago
You have just described why so much offshoring moved back to the US. If you need something cookie cutter that has already been done, sure, but then why are you building something that's already been done? If you have all the infrastructure to take everything else out of the equation except the raw development, then it often still makes sense to have a developer or 2 full time to maintain the app and understand the business needs. I bet the offshore guys get a lot of work from all of the "I have an idea!" people though.

reustle 11y ago

Would love to grab coffee! (No contact info in your profile)

dawson 11y ago

Could you link here to a few apps which you have have built and designed at that price and within the timeframe?

dynjo 11y ago
Here is a recent one https://slimwiki.com https://slimwiki.com