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Ehm. This was known since the beginning: https://np.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3c0hcz/welcome_back/ https://np.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3c0hcz/welcome_back/

by okasaki 11y ago

Ehm. This was known since the beginning: https://np.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3c0hcz/welcome_back/ https://np.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3c0hcz/welcome_back/ > Chooter (Victoria) was let go as an admin by /u/kn0thing.

PhasmaFelis 11y ago
Interesting. It's the first I've heard of it. IIRC, it was also known from the beginning that the r/ShitNiggersSay et al. were banned, not for being offensive, but for doxxing people in violation of Reddit's few explicit rules. Once the mob locks on target, inconvenient little details like that tend to vanish.
- pavedwalden 11y ago
  It was known, but oddly not widely known. During the r/jailbait shutdown, Reddit was more successful in getting the word out about exactly where the line was drawn. This time around many users claimed that it was the beginning of a clean-up campaign instigated by Pao. I don't know if the administrators failed to get their message across or if they were simply out-shouted by the mob.
  - jonlucc 11y ago
    Well the only explanation provided in the FPH round is that they were being shut down for "behavior not ideas". That's more of a "trust us, we did this for the right reasons" to me.
    - PhasmaFelis 11y ago
      Literally the very next sentence after the words "behavior not ideas" was "Today we are removing five subreddits that break our reddit rules based on their harassment of individuals," later followed by "When we are using the word 'harass', we're not talking about 'being annoying' or vote manipulation or anything. We're talking about men and women whose lives are being affected and worry for their safety every day, because people from a certain community on reddit have decided to actually threaten them, online and off, every day." Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/39bpam/removing_harassing_subreddits/ https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/39bpam/remov... This is exactly what I was talking about. The truth is right there, up front and easy to access, but you'd rather uncritically believe the voice of the mob.
- okasaki 11y ago
  Subreddits can't break rules, only users can. And the admins normally deal with this by banning the users. But occasionally they ban entire subreddits for what some users do. Curious, isn't it?
- api 11y ago
  Interesting. I had a strong feeling this whole 'censorship' controversy was bullshit manufactured by trolls, especially given the very trolly nature of the banned subs.
jn1234 11y ago
Except /u/kn0thing reported Ellen according to a former SVP, /u/kickme444 who was the other employee getting fired that started this whole thing [1]. Additionally, Dacvak was fired by Ellen for having cancer proving Ellen was making the personnel decisions. His comments were deleted due to a non-disparagement clause but could be found here [2]. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/3d2hv3/kn0thing_says_he_was_responsible_for_the_change/ct1fbh4 https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/3d2hv3/kn0t... [2] https://archive.is/kfrFM https://archive.is/kfrFM

by okasaki 11y ago

PhasmaFelis 11y ago

Interesting. It's the first I've heard of it. IIRC, it was also known from the beginning that the r/ShitNiggersSay et al. were banned, not for being offensive, but for doxxing people in violation of Reddit's few explicit rules. Once the mob locks on target, inconvenient little details like that tend to vanish.

pavedwalden 11y ago
It was known, but oddly not widely known. During the r/jailbait shutdown, Reddit was more successful in getting the word out about exactly where the line was drawn. This time around many users claimed that it was the beginning of a clean-up campaign instigated by Pao. I don't know if the administrators failed to get their message across or if they were simply out-shouted by the mob.
- jonlucc 11y ago
  Well the only explanation provided in the FPH round is that they were being shut down for "behavior not ideas". That's more of a "trust us, we did this for the right reasons" to me.
  - PhasmaFelis 11y ago
    Literally the very next sentence after the words "behavior not ideas" was "Today we are removing five subreddits that break our reddit rules based on their harassment of individuals," later followed by "When we are using the word 'harass', we're not talking about 'being annoying' or vote manipulation or anything. We're talking about men and women whose lives are being affected and worry for their safety every day, because people from a certain community on reddit have decided to actually threaten them, online and off, every day." Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/39bpam/removing_harassing_subreddits/ https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/39bpam/remov... This is exactly what I was talking about. The truth is right there, up front and easy to access, but you'd rather uncritically believe the voice of the mob.
okasaki 11y ago
Subreddits can't break rules, only users can. And the admins normally deal with this by banning the users. But occasionally they ban entire subreddits for what some users do. Curious, isn't it?
api 11y ago
Interesting. I had a strong feeling this whole 'censorship' controversy was bullshit manufactured by trolls, especially given the very trolly nature of the banned subs.

jn1234 11y ago

Except /u/kn0thing reported Ellen according to a former SVP, /u/kickme444 who was the other employee getting fired that started this whole thing [1]. Additionally, Dacvak was fired by Ellen for having cancer proving Ellen was making the personnel decisions. His comments were deleted due to a non-disparagement clause but could be found here [2]. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/3d2hv3/kn0thing_says_he_was_responsible_for_the_change/ct1fbh4 https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/3d2hv3/kn0t... [2] https://archive.is/kfrFM https://archive.is/kfrFM