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by biggio 11y ago

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mironathetin 11y ago
Hahaha, confirmed. One of my nieces and a friend of our daughter studied in London. One of them didn't even have a window in her room and she still paid more than 400 Pounds a month.
- Offler 11y ago
  Fairly standard for such a low rent, she's lucky she didn't have mice skittering over her feet in her kitchen...
  - logingone 11y ago
    I think the live ones cost more.
- kuschku 11y ago
  I study in a tiny (280k) people city in northern Germany. and rent for a tiny one-room apartment without window is — if you want to get an apartment without waiting for years – also around 350€. Not cheap.
  - DanBC 11y ago
    350 euro is £250. £400 is 560 euro. A London resident will need to pay council tax (about £900 per year for the property) and transport (who knows; about £200 per month for zones 1-5).
  - davnicwil 11y ago
    All rents anywhere in Europe worth living in 2015 are expensive - but London really is one of those cities in its own league. Just to clarify a couple of things: 350€ is about £250 £400 won't get you a tiny one-room apartment without windows, that would be amazing! It'll get you a tiny windowless room, in a pretty grim house shared with 3 or 4 (or 5, or 6) other people, in an awful or really out-in-the-sticks location. (You can optimise by substituting some of the factors, but any way you slice it, a £400 room anywhere in Greater London is not going to be good). Probably the baseline for a studio apartment (I've never seriously looked so could be a bit off) is £800-£900 per month for anywhere resembling a decent location.
    - mironathetin 11y ago
      "£400 won't get you a tiny one-room apartment without windows, that would be amazing! It'll get you a tiny windowless room," yes, they lived in rooms, not appartements indeed.
- batou 11y ago
  That's nothing. I have 5 windows and 2 actual bedrooms although one is debatable and that commands an extra £1100 a month on top of that. Going back to 2002 my first flat was a place under a betting shop in Islington and had a door that we couldn't open and had no idea where it went to and that was £600/month. Oh and it smelled of piss and shit.
- stuaxo 11y ago
  400 pounds a month in london, that is bloody cheap ! Though not having a window is illegal
BjoernKW 11y ago
From what I've heard and read from others, getting a decent place at an affordable rent mostly is a problem limited to the inner-city boroughs. Croydon for example is quite affordable and well-connected in terms of public transport (20 minutes to Victoria or Waterloo).
- Symbiote 11y ago
  Croydon is unusual, since those trains (actually to Victoria or London Bridge) run all night. A monthly pass is £210 though (zones 1-5), compared to £123 (zones 1-2) for nearer the centre [1]. In most other outer boroughs, getting home after midnight is either very expensive (taxi/minicab, including Uber) or very slow (two or more night buses). Most people I know -- in their 20s -- prefer a shared house closer to the centre. All this will change in September, when (if?) the night tube starts running on Friday and Saturday nights. [1] https://tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms/documents/tube-dlr-lo-adult-fares.pdf https://tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms/documents/tube-dlr-lo-adul...
  - lmm 11y ago
    Night bus coverage out to the limits of the tube is pretty good (e.g. I used to live on the Harringay ladder and the N29 runs direct from central London; honestly I'm not sure the night tube would make getting there at night any quicker, since it's right where St Ann's Road (Green Lanes) station on the Picadilly line isn't. The night bus to where I currently live goes all the way out to Enfield.
    - Symbiote 11y ago
      It's often not too bad if you're leaving from Soho, but redevelopment has pushed lots of entertainment out of Soho, so I'm likely to be starting my journey home from Camden, Islington, Shoreditch or Waterloo. If the tube ran at night, I could reasonably stay out late in Zone 4+! I can't remember the last time I did that. (Why might I want to? Because people live there, and have BBQs etc.)
- maxerize 11y ago
api 11y ago
Unless you are rich, this applies to most "alpha world cities" to varying degrees.

by biggio 11y ago

mironathetin 11y ago

Hahaha, confirmed. One of my nieces and a friend of our daughter studied in London. One of them didn't even have a window in her room and she still paid more than 400 Pounds a month.

Offler 11y ago
Fairly standard for such a low rent, she's lucky she didn't have mice skittering over her feet in her kitchen...
- logingone 11y ago
  I think the live ones cost more.
kuschku 11y ago
I study in a tiny (280k) people city in northern Germany. and rent for a tiny one-room apartment without window is — if you want to get an apartment without waiting for years – also around 350€. Not cheap.
- DanBC 11y ago
  350 euro is £250. £400 is 560 euro. A London resident will need to pay council tax (about £900 per year for the property) and transport (who knows; about £200 per month for zones 1-5).
- davnicwil 11y ago
  All rents anywhere in Europe worth living in 2015 are expensive - but London really is one of those cities in its own league. Just to clarify a couple of things: 350€ is about £250 £400 won't get you a tiny one-room apartment without windows, that would be amazing! It'll get you a tiny windowless room, in a pretty grim house shared with 3 or 4 (or 5, or 6) other people, in an awful or really out-in-the-sticks location. (You can optimise by substituting some of the factors, but any way you slice it, a £400 room anywhere in Greater London is not going to be good). Probably the baseline for a studio apartment (I've never seriously looked so could be a bit off) is £800-£900 per month for anywhere resembling a decent location.
  - mironathetin 11y ago
    "£400 won't get you a tiny one-room apartment without windows, that would be amazing! It'll get you a tiny windowless room," yes, they lived in rooms, not appartements indeed.
batou 11y ago
That's nothing. I have 5 windows and 2 actual bedrooms although one is debatable and that commands an extra £1100 a month on top of that. Going back to 2002 my first flat was a place under a betting shop in Islington and had a door that we couldn't open and had no idea where it went to and that was £600/month. Oh and it smelled of piss and shit.
stuaxo 11y ago
400 pounds a month in london, that is bloody cheap ! Though not having a window is illegal

BjoernKW 11y ago

From what I've heard and read from others, getting a decent place at an affordable rent mostly is a problem limited to the inner-city boroughs. Croydon for example is quite affordable and well-connected in terms of public transport (20 minutes to Victoria or Waterloo).

Symbiote 11y ago
Croydon is unusual, since those trains (actually to Victoria or London Bridge) run all night. A monthly pass is £210 though (zones 1-5), compared to £123 (zones 1-2) for nearer the centre [1]. In most other outer boroughs, getting home after midnight is either very expensive (taxi/minicab, including Uber) or very slow (two or more night buses). Most people I know -- in their 20s -- prefer a shared house closer to the centre. All this will change in September, when (if?) the night tube starts running on Friday and Saturday nights. [1] https://tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms/documents/tube-dlr-lo-adult-fares.pdf https://tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms/documents/tube-dlr-lo-adul...
- lmm 11y ago
  Night bus coverage out to the limits of the tube is pretty good (e.g. I used to live on the Harringay ladder and the N29 runs direct from central London; honestly I'm not sure the night tube would make getting there at night any quicker, since it's right where St Ann's Road (Green Lanes) station on the Picadilly line isn't. The night bus to where I currently live goes all the way out to Enfield.
  - Symbiote 11y ago
    It's often not too bad if you're leaving from Soho, but redevelopment has pushed lots of entertainment out of Soho, so I'm likely to be starting my journey home from Camden, Islington, Shoreditch or Waterloo. If the tube ran at night, I could reasonably stay out late in Zone 4+! I can't remember the last time I did that. (Why might I want to? Because people live there, and have BBQs etc.)
maxerize 11y ago

api 11y ago

Unless you are rich, this applies to most "alpha world cities" to varying degrees.